Subwoofers - Final Thoughts with Martin Logan ESL 13A

@audphile1 so I toed in the speakers a bit more moved the chair closer to the speakers. They are now 6’ apart, 33" off the back wall and I’m sitting about 12’ away and yes, I’m hear a tad more bass as I move closer in.

It really seems to be about the music here too. I played Deep Bas by Niels & Sam recommended by @elliottbnewcombjr and I heard good clarity and detail but not Deep Bass as the title states. Then I listen to The Hidden Camera by Photek and An Evening In Dallas by Joe Sample and you could feel the bass pound the floor.

I would like to be able to tweak the bass myself with the Genesis ARC program, but I don’t know anything about frequency response graphs and all that stuff. I have looked around the web and can’t seem to find much on this?

@m-db thanks for your input. I wouldn’t mind trying out the Swarm set-up, but it used to be $2,500 now I see it’s $4,400 and I would want white, so it’s more for a custom color. I could do a couple of used KEFs for around $1,600.

Thanks for the Audioholics article. I think I just need to "Crawl" outta this rabbit hole, maybe trade it all in for a Sonos system and call it a day!

Have you ever experimented with the rake angle of your speakers?  Lowe’s sells plastic shims that make this very easy; try a downward tilt.  You may also want to shorten the distance from your listening position to the speakers.

@sgordon1 Yes, I have done the "Tilt!" Thanks.

My CLXs are bolt upright (to within 0.1 degree using a digital level) and are with exactly zero toe-in and exactly the same distance from the front wall (5-6 feet) and the side walls, using a laser "tape" measure.  Speakers and I are set-up in an approximate equilateral triangle.  I can measure for you if you think it matters. 

FWIW-perhaps the best sound I had from my CLSs was firing down the long axis of my then living room and having the speakers in the middle of the that vector, at the suggestion of Michael Green.  It only works in some living situation and with a very easy going partner, lol

never saw or heard, but returnable,

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