"Cleaning" Vinyl Makes It Worse Not Better!

@lewm, 

The quote I somewhat butchered was:  You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time" and web 'appears' to attribute it to John Lydgate of Bury (c. 1370 – c. 1451) who was a monk and poet.  

I will not hold it against you for using Triton X100 LOL.  Many people I have worked with had Triton X100 and while adopting some of what I recommended choose to stay with Triton X100.  It really only becomes to an issue when people want a no-rinse solution for UT, in which case you want just enough nonionic surfactant for wetting and keeping the cleaner concentration 50-ppm or less works well and this is where Tergitol 15-S-9 is a major benefit.  

Otherwise, thank you for the kind words and best wishes to you and yours for the Holidays and the New Year,

Neil

back when i was bin diving i used the Walker enzyme with a wet vac brush Nitty Gritty before the Degritter w Turgitol….

Carry on

Jim

never a Monk, sometimes a Poet

Biggest a bunch of malarkey I’ve ever heard. If you’re using a cleaning solvent that’s leaving a residual simply stop using it. Crud buildup over time on an Lp has always been a nuisance and can seriously effect sound quality. Start with good old Dawn dish soap and a clean soft cloth. After a good soap a dope, rinse it good and dry it with a clean soft cloth. Let your ears be the judge my friend, I am certain you will hear a remarkable difference.

@lewm If you were a smoker in the 1950's (I wasn't) you filled the room with cigarette smoke. Have you ever seen the windows of a smokers car and the stench that it produces. That stench doesn't go away. The same thing happens in a smoke filled room, it eventually smells like an ashtray. I ask you where do you think that smoke goes while playing a record?

My father and mother were both heavy smokers. Our whole house smelled like an ashtray. He would sit 10 feet from his record player and smoke like a chimney. You don't think he tainted his records? You obviously haven't been around much.

@antinn I’m not going to argue with you about chemicals and processes. As I have said repeatedly that your system must work for a few records at a time. You yourself have stated that. It’s when you try to scale that to 20 or more records it becomes a formidable task, even when using US. In the research I did, reading the multitude to threads as I am sure did as well, I was trying to overcome the fear of ruining a record while having the desire to eliminate the noise I had from smoke and other dirt. You were probably still scrapping crud off of submarine oxygen tubes at that time.

I know that you are the de-facto resident expert, as no one has challenged you. But you’re just a guy like me trying to enjoy his records. I’ve written and published technical guides and manuals that were distributed world-wide by The Coca-Cola Company. I have enough humility to not think that is a big deal.

My cartridge, a Sound-Smith Heliios, is a very sensitive and linear device. I went through many different systems and chemicals for cleaning with poor results until I started using the Walker 4-step, then the Rush Paul system. I don’t hear any noise from the older used records. The blacks are blacker and deep. That was my goal and objective. When I used your chemicals either manually or in the US I did not get the same results. Also, I did.not need special assistance amounting to hours to get it right.

I am not criticizing your system. It simply does not work for me. Don’t be so sensitive, show some humility and accept that this boy ain’t gonna buy it.