Streamer apps critical


I don't understand why high end manufacturers release streamers with terrible apps. One of the strongest advantages of the Nodes is the BluOS app. It's simple and effective,  though not full-featured. I understand the Innuos app is great. Not all of us like much less want to pay the cost of ROON and the online apps, like USB audio Player are clunky. I would love to see a paid-for version of BluOS or other manufacturers license a common but customized app, much as early versions of Windows were available from Dell, Gateway, Compaq and so many others. 

pprocter

The Moon Mind2 interface is really easy. I run Qobuz on my Moon 280D. The Mind2 interface runs on my iPad. I open Mind2 and search for an artist or composer or album. If I were to search for Paul Simon, for example, I see all of his albums on Qobuz, showing the album covers. Touch on an album cover and hit play. So far it seems to have no hitches. The Moon 280D is also a well-priced streamer at $4k.

 

Hi @antigrunge2 I appreciate your thoughts.

Roon is heavy processing,  

I hear this alot.  I do not use any of Roon's optional processing.  In fact, I shun any processing of audio signals at all, such as roon correction etc.  Am I missing something here?

ideally separating server and renderer

I think Grimm has shown their units can run Roon Core (server) and Roon endpoint (streamer).

InnuOS is the polar opposite: minimalist power usage, small capacity chips and no frills

I won't dispute this.  But I do not thing Sense is anywhere near the interface Roon is from a music management and ease of use).

I think many manufacturers understand Roon is desirable form this perspective and are vying to optimize their computers to maximize the Roon sound quality.  They should! :)  Take care!

The Cambridge Audio Stream Magic app generally works well.  Recently there was an update that screwed it up for about 2 weeks and I reverted back to their earlier app which wasn’t perfect but was at least functional.  Then a new update solved everything for Stream Magic 

@moonwatcher

I have no idea. These days there are a couple of camps of developers, The professionals, trained in structured development using standardized tools. Then the net has nurtured a huge number of "wild Wild West" multilingual coders and developers that patch together stuff in all sorts of the latest fad of tools. Because lots of small businesses needed web and app development these home schooled folks had so much business that they started businesses and hired people and produce spagetti apps and all sorts of tools. It’s a mess. Some of these businesses have gotten huge.

I was an senior IT executive for a global company. I needed a little work done in the Portland area had my local systems manager go out to get bids. Each was more bazaar than the last. We wanted and extendable shell to allow easy extensibility and maintainability. They could not even understand the job. We got back bids from $95K to $290K using a half dozen or moire tools. The shops were a bunch of guys with couches and snow cone machines that had absolutely no idea what structured development was. It was hysterical. I am sure a lot of small businesses are really spending a fortune on IT that is a mess.

We finally had to go to Seattle to find a professional programming house to do the job. It was a real eye opener.

@ghdprentice that is scary to contemplate that so many of the apps we and banks, and other outfits use are patched together so randomly. I remember way, way back in the 1970s, they taught us to add comment lines to all our code with the idea that anyone could come along and examine the code and figure it out. I don’t think anyone adds comments to their code now. I got out of it (I’m an engineer, not a programmer) before C++ began its rise. I was taken aback by how instead of compact code that ran efficiently these new "kids" would call on huge libraries of functions to simply multiply a couple numbers. Guess all that super processing power of 486 chips encouraged such practices and even more so today with all the super number crunching chips and those being used in graphics cards.

I just hope somewhere, somebody is maintaining a map of the architecture of their code, so my Tidal and banking software doesn’t flake out very often. LOL. Thanks for the info and thanks for giving me something else to worry about. I recall 1999 when they had to hire a bunch of old COBOL programmers to come in and "save the world" from code not understanding "2000". Crazy.