All-in-One units for retiring audiophile & music lovers in 2025, say what?


A good audio buddy friend closing in on his later parts of the golden years contacted me over the holidays. He started  talking rather excitedly about these new all-in-one units. [Please disregard if this is nothing new for you and/or not of any real interest]. This story and ask below might not resonate with some. Hopefully others who can relate might reply, understanding a lot of what this is really about. A winding down audiophile friend, looking for simplicity of listening to music is what I can share up front. 

I found my audiophile friend's [all of the sudden] inquiry interesting, me asking what he's looking at buying -  say what?, and starting to ask him "does it sound good, look good, is it light weight or heavy, could you see it replacing everything as your new center piece in your big room, and all the other stuff gone - really?", "Say more". He started to share more. Please read on if any of this is resonating, Thanks.  

We start talking and reminiscing about our early Go-To receivers from the mid 1970s. The big all-in-one boxes. Wider cases, big transformers, powerful, weighty, great FM tuners, tone controls, Big Stereo Sound.  How it was back then - simple to listen to FM, big roller dial, plug in your turntable, tape decks, and enjoy the music for days. No other worries, let it play. Remember doing that?  I bet many members here on Audiogon lived all of that too, and none of us will ever forget it. I won't. 

I also bring this up because It dawned on me, I started asking myself wow - is this really occurring all over again in some new and exciting way. Like a giddy kid  I start researching with him seeing more - woah, what? I did realize some of this [sort of an era renewal] was already occurring past few years, still not quite aware myself of what's out there, or coming back, maybe puzzled a bit and curious.

Seeing more videos, familiar reviewers, all touching on this topic past 1-2 yrs. Then you see some of the same new units popping up with all of the reviewers, hmmm. 

So my fairly extreme multi [tube/amp/component] audio buddy [past 60 years] starts showing me these new generation [mostly] solid state units he's been looking at, seemingly ready to hang up ALL of the separate components.  Says he simply wants "one box" now to "do it all", "getting rid of all this other stuff", to just "play music" and "be done". These were his exact words recently. Some may relate here. It kinda hit me. Something to be said for simplicity and just listening to music. Yes. 

Next Generation - 

Looking closely at these new units with my friend - seeing somewhat old-familiar design approaches, renewed, by real engineers. Ahhh, hey, there we see big transformers, a stout amplifier section, nice capacitors, thick copper wiring, big screws on power caps, robust binding posts, nice built in DAC, built-in streamer with tons of access, yep - tone controls, loudness control, low noise, meters, lighting - hmmm what's going on here.  I soon realized I too need to pay attention and look around more closely - to see what he's really looking at and why. It starts to make a lot of sense, it's coming into a focus, just like the '70s era receivers were.

Fast forward a few weeks -  Buddy just ordered his new all-in-one unit, maybe downsizing speakers. He's dropping back down to a new/familiar 70s style midsize speaker as well.  He was initially anxious, a little nervous maybe, wondering - and decided to just go forward and "not look back" he says. Some of you may already be well down this path, or even doing this in 2nd, 3rd systems now. The whole thing is sort of a throwback [in some ways] to me, sort of what it use to be like 50yrs ago. Or feels that way to me.  They say great ideas recycle back to themselves. Maybe so. Observing closer now.  

Wow, wouldn't it be really cool if it could be all done really well, in one-box, once again? No more separates component listening - just hit the power button one time, turn up the volume, and let it play in the big room, listen, walk around, no worries - just let it play for days on end. I bet many  here totally get why I posted this. It's for an audio friend.  

ASK:

Please share your story. It would be so cool for him to read any of your stories. I know he would be interested and appreciate your wind-back consolidation journey too - if you have one like his to share in some way.  Particularly those who've made great strides towards major consolidation and still enjoying the music.  Dear buddy is starting the journey now to separate himself from his vast array of separates, lots of stuff, selling everything else soon, and going back to "one box" for simple music in the big room. I'm supporting him along the way on this particularly journey.    

Thanks a million in advance for your replies - care to share your familiar story at all?

 

 

 

 

 

decooney

Devialet 250 Expert

For highest fidelity, one box solution, that looks great.

I switched from a large Naim stack (300 series) a few years ago and never looked back.

AES/EBU input from  Mac mini via a D2D converter.

With tiny but larger than life Boenicke 5Se speakers 

Advance Paris Myconnect 250

Vacuum tube preamplification with Streaming Functionality…

 

Key Features:

  • 180 W per channel A/B Class
  • Compatible with streaming services including Spotify Connect, Qobuz, Deezer, Tidal, TuneIn.
  • Tube pre-amplification, A guarantee of great musicality even for digital sources.
  • Built in phono stage with settings for MM, low-level MC and high-level MC turntables.
  • Built in FM and DAB tuners.

 

 

"@livinon2wheels ...The lure of the simplicity combined with near audiophile or true audiophile quality is pretty compelling. Choosing out of this glut of gear is a daunting process, and so time consuming due to the lack of brick and mortar stores within a reasonable distance from my home..."

So true, thanks for the reply, story, and acknowledging this thread - us helping a friend and others.. You bring up great family memories for me, and the mention of Lafayette, Heathkit and Hafler. My grandfather was involved with a lot of that, parts and more - was Chief Engineer at H&R later became founder of American Electronic Laboratories, AEL , Philadelphia PA. This exposed me to some of it.

Your comment about the lack of "brick and mortar" stores and mention is something I’m tracking in my own metropolitan area. I’m also wondering about this myself, likely a key factor in how the next generation of audio-listeners are evolving, adapting, and what they are actually buying now days, and for the near future.

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Holding on !!!: 

I try to periodically visit my own local 55-year-in-business audio dealer to check in and see what’s happening. Been going there for 45 years. He’s still in business and loving it, and I do not see any all-in-one units for sale there, all unique stuff you cannot buy online easily fwiw. Definitely a group of us still out here hugging our separates and enjoying them as long as we can :). I think it helps to do both, and let go of whatever you need to - when needed, but maybe not immediately LOL.

 

Great posts, guys!

Interesting how things cycle back their beginnings. Fruitwood consoles gave way to "components" which peaked at massive hardware (and physical media) taking up a measurable amount of the available real estate in our homes. Then back to compressing all this (under extreme pressure) in the most minimalist(?) amount of space, measured in cubic centimeters as opposed to cubic feet.

Our past efforts to cram 3 pounds of manure into a 2 pound bag has had mixed success in both sound quality, and reliability. Sometimes we’re just slow learners. (It did take us over 100 years to figure out that if we just tipped those Ketchup bottles upside down life would be much easier).

But, we are seeing legitimate "real" high fidelity stuff coming in small packages these days. The convergence of engineering genius and musical genius is a beautiful thing.

We’re actively involved in servicing old audio gear which takes a "creative" turn now and then. We recently applied "newer thinking" to a 60’s Zenith "flip down" stereo -- one of those things where the turntable hinged down from the top and the speakers flipped out from the sides. We installed new 2.1 digital amp, modern low profile drivers, and passive sub out. Also located an old (but newer) BIC changer up in the loft to replace the original Zenith. Belt drive, Grado cartridge, outboard phono stage. Sounds pretty <insert expletive here> good, looks original, and takes up minimal space.

Then there’s the old (vacuum tube) Magnavox console that was dropped off for service. After breathing life back into it, we experimented with a Wiim Pro streamer with 12v trigger. The old Magnavox's new hidden components can be controlled via iPhone or tablet. Powers when the app is launched, and powers down after a few minutes of non-activity.

Fun stuff.