All-in-One units for retiring audiophile & music lovers in 2025, say what?


A good audio buddy friend closing in on his later parts of the golden years contacted me over the holidays. He started  talking rather excitedly about these new all-in-one units. [Please disregard if this is nothing new for you and/or not of any real interest]. This story and ask below might not resonate with some. Hopefully others who can relate might reply, understanding a lot of what this is really about. A winding down audiophile friend, looking for simplicity of listening to music is what I can share up front. 

I found my audiophile friend's [all of the sudden] inquiry interesting, me asking what he's looking at buying -  say what?, and starting to ask him "does it sound good, look good, is it light weight or heavy, could you see it replacing everything as your new center piece in your big room, and all the other stuff gone - really?", "Say more". He started to share more. Please read on if any of this is resonating, Thanks.  

We start talking and reminiscing about our early Go-To receivers from the mid 1970s. The big all-in-one boxes. Wider cases, big transformers, powerful, weighty, great FM tuners, tone controls, Big Stereo Sound.  How it was back then - simple to listen to FM, big roller dial, plug in your turntable, tape decks, and enjoy the music for days. No other worries, let it play. Remember doing that?  I bet many members here on Audiogon lived all of that too, and none of us will ever forget it. I won't. 

I also bring this up because It dawned on me, I started asking myself wow - is this really occurring all over again in some new and exciting way. Like a giddy kid  I start researching with him seeing more - woah, what? I did realize some of this [sort of an era renewal] was already occurring past few years, still not quite aware myself of what's out there, or coming back, maybe puzzled a bit and curious.

Seeing more videos, familiar reviewers, all touching on this topic past 1-2 yrs. Then you see some of the same new units popping up with all of the reviewers, hmmm. 

So my fairly extreme multi [tube/amp/component] audio buddy [past 60 years] starts showing me these new generation [mostly] solid state units he's been looking at, seemingly ready to hang up ALL of the separate components.  Says he simply wants "one box" now to "do it all", "getting rid of all this other stuff", to just "play music" and "be done". These were his exact words recently. Some may relate here. It kinda hit me. Something to be said for simplicity and just listening to music. Yes. 

Next Generation - 

Looking closely at these new units with my friend - seeing somewhat old-familiar design approaches, renewed, by real engineers. Ahhh, hey, there we see big transformers, a stout amplifier section, nice capacitors, thick copper wiring, big screws on power caps, robust binding posts, nice built in DAC, built-in streamer with tons of access, yep - tone controls, loudness control, low noise, meters, lighting - hmmm what's going on here.  I soon realized I too need to pay attention and look around more closely - to see what he's really looking at and why. It starts to make a lot of sense, it's coming into a focus, just like the '70s era receivers were.

Fast forward a few weeks -  Buddy just ordered his new all-in-one unit, maybe downsizing speakers. He's dropping back down to a new/familiar 70s style midsize speaker as well.  He was initially anxious, a little nervous maybe, wondering - and decided to just go forward and "not look back" he says. Some of you may already be well down this path, or even doing this in 2nd, 3rd systems now. The whole thing is sort of a throwback [in some ways] to me, sort of what it use to be like 50yrs ago. Or feels that way to me.  They say great ideas recycle back to themselves. Maybe so. Observing closer now.  

Wow, wouldn't it be really cool if it could be all done really well, in one-box, once again? No more separates component listening - just hit the power button one time, turn up the volume, and let it play in the big room, listen, walk around, no worries - just let it play for days on end. I bet many  here totally get why I posted this. It's for an audio friend.  

ASK:

Please share your story. It would be so cool for him to read any of your stories. I know he would be interested and appreciate your wind-back consolidation journey too - if you have one like his to share in some way.  Particularly those who've made great strides towards major consolidation and still enjoying the music.  Dear buddy is starting the journey now to separate himself from his vast array of separates, lots of stuff, selling everything else soon, and going back to "one box" for simple music in the big room. I'm supporting him along the way on this particularly journey.    

Thanks a million in advance for your replies - care to share your familiar story at all?

 

 

 

 

 

decooney

Great posts, guys!

Interesting how things cycle back their beginnings. Fruitwood consoles gave way to "components" which peaked at massive hardware (and physical media) taking up a measurable amount of the available real estate in our homes. Then back to compressing all this (under extreme pressure) in the most minimalist(?) amount of space, measured in cubic centimeters as opposed to cubic feet.

Our past efforts to cram 3 pounds of manure into a 2 pound bag has had mixed success in both sound quality, and reliability. Sometimes we’re just slow learners. (It did take us over 100 years to figure out that if we just tipped those Ketchup bottles upside down life would be much easier).

But, we are seeing legitimate "real" high fidelity stuff coming in small packages these days. The convergence of engineering genius and musical genius is a beautiful thing.

We’re actively involved in servicing old audio gear which takes a "creative" turn now and then. We recently applied "newer thinking" to a 60’s Zenith "flip down" stereo -- one of those things where the turntable hinged down from the top and the speakers flipped out from the sides. We installed new 2.1 digital amp, modern low profile drivers, and passive sub out. Also located an old (but newer) BIC changer up in the loft to replace the original Zenith. Belt drive, Grado cartridge, outboard phono stage. Sounds pretty <insert expletive here> good, looks original, and takes up minimal space.

Then there’s the old (vacuum tube) Magnavox console that was dropped off for service. After breathing life back into it, we experimented with a Wiim Pro streamer with 12v trigger. The old Magnavox's new hidden components can be controlled via iPhone or tablet. Powers when the app is launched, and powers down after a few minutes of non-activity.

Fun stuff.

 

@terenthia Advance Paris Myconnect, Vacuum Tube and Streaming Functionality...

 

There it is - was wondering when it would surface here. And now a few pictures. Seems this unit is being marketed fairly aggressively around the world this past year. https://www.advanceparis.com/en/gammes/myconnect/

 

 

@decooney ...*Laugh*  Nah, saw the disclaimer, blew past it....and I had a pair of 'phones on at the time...
Takes 'near field' a bit too near for my thrills 'n chills, but mho and stuck to it....the MD 'end tables', not my headphones... ;)  Besides, I don't have now or pending the interior real estate to have large-ish cabinetry for much more than column style drivers.  All of the current items upstream are separates which will get pared down as things progress beyond my adventures in omni-land.
Existing playthings are 9" and 12" in max. diameter except for the tripod style legs keeping them vertical (top heavy...).

Like any good piano, stay tuned... ;)

@livinon2wheels ...sorry to read your house went to ash on you...1st thought was "well, that's what happens if you run all 11 at once, all at 11...😏..."

Likely, not the case....

Anyway, at 73, we've similar pasts with Heathkits, Eico, Allied and Layfette catalogues, all that....being a pest at b&m shops....magazines of various sorts....
Only  5 systems here; only the shop system is pretty basic (Receiver, parametric equalizer, and CD changer, speakers 'flown' from the ceiling), 2 puter desktop systems (spouse has a soundbar, me a D amp with 'bookshelf' Walsh), the tv with a simple receiver/CD player and DVD player....and my main mess of 18 items with 6 disparate pairs of speakers....the latter we'll call Gawdzilla....

Since you've gotten pared down rather abruptly, it IS a great opportunity to revise an approach.  You mention combining garage, kitchen, and locations less inclined to 'stationary audio contemplation', you might consider a distribution amp.  
Multiple amps, each assigned to a space, drivers ceiling or walls, each with it's own wall-mounted local control.

The main system becomes the A-V set-up, minimalist as you may discern....or not.
Each would likely run the same amount of buck$ at the end of the day, but the distrib system could be set and forget except to punch 'play'...

Just a thought.... J

The Aurender AP20 looks interesting. I have not been impressed with their earlier DACs. Streamer, top notch but not their DACs. I was interested to read this review. I have not heard one, so I can’t comment on the unit or this review. But looks like it would be worth hearing.

 

https://audiophilestyle.com/ca/reviews/aurender-ap20-integrated-review-r1256/

 

"@ghdprentice The Aurender AP20 looks interesting..."

 

Clip, from within the link you sent. Looks built inside. Dual torroidals. Nice. Interesting too.

------ Quote;

"Now the AP20 story gets interesting. It’s analog all the way from here on out (with one convenient exception). Aurender implemented an analog R2R stepped-attenuator volume control in the AP20. It would’ve been so simple for the company to just use the digital volume control built into the AKM chips, but I’m very happy an R2R analog control was selected because I often prefer the sound of a nice analog volume control."