So, it has an ADC/DAC in it?
A lot of folks on line, even some learned ones thinks the ’D’ stands for digital and writes as if the amp is when as far as I can tell when delving a bit into it isn’t correct.
Would I be wasting my money to get a turntable?
I am thinking about getting a turntable but I have a Class D amplifier (Nad M33) which digitizes all the analog inputs. If the amplifier is just digitizing the source is there going to be any difference between the vinyl and just listening to lossless digital streaming sources? Is there any benefit to me, given my current amplifier with has no analog pass through capability, to adding a turntable to my system?
The sound quality you get is a result of the components you choose. If you choose poorly you can get vinyl that sounds harsh and trebly and digital that is warm and musical... although it is still easier to get the opposite as cheap components tend to favor the more forgiving vinyl. Since you can craft digital or vinyl to sound which every way you like, there is just no advantage to vinyl any more. If you have dollars that you can invest in analog... invest in getting better digital. |
I think it’s not so black-and-white whether class D is or is "not" digital. Sure if you’re getting into a semantics war, it doesn’t meet the criteria of digital quantization and conversion. But some of the elements / patterns are certainly there, and I think @dlevi67 is correct to point them out. Anyways, in true Audiogon fashion, this sidebar isn’t even fully relevant to OP because the preamp stage of his M33 converts ALL analog inputs to digital (ADC), before it even hits the class D amp stage. Maybe it can directly convert that to the necessary PWM without an intervening DAC stage - that might mitigate the issue I had with the separate M12 + M22 combination's SQ? |
@carlsbad2 Tell us more.
I’m sorry, but the one who is confused is you. The technique used in class D (which I agree does not stand for ’Digital’) is the same PWM (or other pulse-based modulation) used to convert an analogue signal into a digital stream for CD or other digital medium and back into an analogue format. Neither more, nor less. If there are ’digital sound quality’ issues due to quantization or filtering, they would emerge in this transformation neither more nor less than in an ADC converting an analogue signal. The fact that potentially the only operation performed on the pulse stream so obtained in a class D amp is amplification, and it is not treating the digital stream in other ways, is neither here nor there: they are 1s and 0s whether you like it or not: the transistor is either saturated or cut-off, and in fact any use in the linear zone is not only not-favoured; it is discouraged and unwanted. The analogue signal is not recoverable unless you use the same techniques to demodulate and filter the pulse stream that are used in a DAC (obviously with much higher currents and voltages, but again that is irrelevant). I’d suggest you get a degree in EE, then perhaps we can google together from the same basis of understanding. |