I use a Loki Max for this very purpose and it works great for me. I live in a tiny NYC apartment and using it to bump the low and the high end when I want to listen late at night without bothering my wall neighbors works well. It’s just what my Tannoy Stirlings needed for that situation.
Nearfield Low-Level Listening : New Speakers or EQ? Thoughts?
In my main rig, I listen nearfield at low levels, and I do not feel the music sounds fully engaging until moderate-to-loud volumes. Have been told my speakers, Totem Forest Signature, "need power to sing". I have ordered a Schiit Loki Max EQ; wondering if that will do the trick or do I need to consider new speakers? I use the Loudness/Comp feature on my integrated amp, it helps some. Listen to 70s, Jazz, Americana, ...
My System:
- Accuphase E-380 Integrated
- 180 watts into 4 ohms and 120 watts into 8 ohms.
- High damping factor of 500.
- Totem Forest Signature Speakers
- Impedance: 8 ohms (6.4 ohms minimum)
- Sensitivity: 87 dB
- Recommended Power: 50 - 225 watts
- Rose HiFi RS-150B Streamer/DAC
- Thorens 1601 TT, Schiit Skol Pre, Nagoaka Cart
- REL Classic 98 Subwoofer, Speakon connection
- XLR Connections, Bi-Wired Speakers
- Shunyata Power Conditioner
- ...
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I think you should have waited for your Loki Max before posting this. I've used a couple of Lokis for years (early adopter...now one is in my stereo video system and another is part of my main rig's Vali 3 headphone stack) and bought a Loki Max last year for my main system...a brilliantly designed EQ and the remote is a game changer. Fletcher/Munson can pound sand! |
@OP I don't think the placement per se is the cause of the issue you are experiencing. But it does seriously compromise soundstaging. Unfortunately, it also means that the Devore O series won't work as their front baffles are too wide for the available space. The Gibbon series might. I'm presuming that the Forest Signatures, which are floorstanding, have replaced the stand mounts shown in your picture. That said, the Forests are essentially stand mount speakers with a cavity for mass loading built into the speaker. I think, in essence, the situation is that you have a small volume speaker that is slightly insensitive so you have a speaker with limited bass extension which is exacerbated by the relative reduction in perceived bass at low listening levels. Your use of the loudness control on the amp is an attempt to compensate for that, as will be the use of the Schiit. That is something of a sticking plaster rather than a full solution. I do think that you would get better results with a pair of more efficient speakers that also have a driver / cabinet combination that will allow them to move more air at low listening levels. |
op you are barking up the wrong tree
your amplifier has more then enough power
changing to greater efficiency loudspeakers wont fix it nor will eq low levet listening involves the flecher munson curve which dictates the ear is less adept at hearing low bass at lower levels you might think adding a sub would fix tha it wont as a good woofer just adds pressure to the leading and trailing notes of the totems the man sound is just coming from the totems
and an eq is too likely to muck up your tonal balance without offering enough finessee to fix the issue
having heard the totem forests for years you need a warmer fuller sounding loudspeaker with greater mid-bass response please lk at a pair of Legacy signatures or a pair of Harbeths to completely give you what you are craving. Dave and Troy Audio intellect NJ legacy dealer |
By the way, 23’ x 23’ x 8’, square rooms can be problematic, even more reason to use measurements to find advantageous, avoid problematic positioning and toe-in. I would lower the speakers, tilt them back, aim tweeter up at seated ear height, altering the INITIAL reflections off both the floor and ceiling. Amazing Bytes CD with Test Tones Info here only finding two expensive listings on Discogs at the moment. Write me a message, I could help you find an inexpensive copy. I make an enlarged copy of page 4, use the 29 1/3 octave test tones with the SPL Mic on a tripod at ear level listening position. This combined with the Schiit EQ, use one of the presets for ’measured with mic’ then finally, you use your ears and set another of the presets for personal preference. If there is a big difference between what the mic hears and you hear, time for a hearing test. I like this chart |
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