Adding a tube amp is a good idea?


Dear all, 

Hope your 2025 is off to a good start! I am thinking about adding a tube amp. Particularly Audio Research ref S80. Nicely used unit can be had for a reasonable price so I am considering it. You can see my virtual system for a full list but my system consists of LTA preamp, Pass Labs X250.8 amp and JA Perspective2 speakers. Totally happy and satisfied with the sound I get from the system, but just want to have another amp for a different flavour. Do you guys think ref 80s sounds different enough, for better or worse? Let me know what you think. Thanks 

 

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I have been into high end audio for fifty year and over that time almost always had a Pass designed amp. Most recently the x350. I had tubes in my CD player, preamp, and phono stage. But I hesitated to get an amp with tubes. I liked the idea of absolute reliability.

Then I went to an introduction of the release of the Audio Research Reference 160m about eight years ago. These amps have auto-biasing, and soft turn on... basically eliminating my concerns. I immediately said, when they come out with a stereo version... I am in.

They did. My dealer brought one over for trial. The moment was simply jaw dropping. I had just moved my Pass x350 to the side... intending to swap in and out. Within seconds I knew there would be no swapping... It would never come out.... well, until mine arrived. Then my dealer let me have a pair of Reference 160m mono blocks for two years. But I have been in audio heaven for five or six years now.

If I knew thirty of forty years ago what I know now I would have been running a tube amps from the beginning, and specifically ARC. I am sure the Ref 80s will change your life.

 

Oh, yes, it will sound different.

My first better end system, 30 years ago, started with a Cary entry level tube amp (and a B&K digital HT preamp in front of it).  That started me down a long road.  

I am not familiar with that ARC amp you listed, but my next upgrade from the little Cary amp was a pair of ARC VTM 120s.  Those babies sounded fantastic, even with that particular preamp of dubious audiophile quality.  They could whisper sweet and quiet or they could scream.   And if it wasn't for how unreliable they could be when I flipped the switches on them, I'd still own them today.