WHY DO SOME AUDIOPHILES TRY TO TELL OTHERS WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN’T HEAR IN A SYSTEM?


I ask the question. Because I have had several discussions on Audiogon where certain posters will try to tell another person what they can or can’t hear in a system. Most of the time never hearing or having experiences either the piece of equipment, cables etc. It is usually against those that spend money on more expensive equipment and cabling. Why is this so prevalent.  

calvinj

Generalizations, assumptions, presumptions, interpolations, extrapolations certainly dominate audiophile discussions. Direct experience with the exact issue or topic at hand doesn't mean much these days, too many voices pulling people in too many directions, I 'd hate to be a newbie audiophile today. Back in the day before social media we needed direct experience in order to learn. I very well remember the demonstrations @mrkrichman spoke about, I was often confused coming out of those as I didn't trust my own expertise or sensory perception. Over time with more direct experiences I became a much more self assured audiophile.

The internet is both a blessing and a curse. Everyone does the google to become an expert. It's the time we live in. 

Sometimes, I think we don't know what we are missing until we do. What I mean is, we all think our systems sound good. We might not know that if we do X it will sound so much better. 

let me explain

My system is all vintage, it sounds wonderful!! Went down the hole that is tweaking. Got some improvements here and there. Then I did a partial recap on my pre-amp, just changed out 12 caps in the sound path. WOW, what a difference, changed everything, had no idea what I was missing!! That lead to a FULL refresh on both pre and power amps. OMFG, HUGE difference! More detail, more dynamics, bigger soundstage, more bass, more mid, more treble. But most of all, the noise floor almost vanished! 

Had no idea what people really were talking about when they said inky blacks, or dark sound. Low noise floor. During a soft passage to loud, I literally jump in my chair now. When it's quiet, it's really quiet!!! Now I fully understand what a low noise floor does. 

My point is, we don't always fully understand what others are trying to tell us, or what certain things really mean, until we experience them for ourselves. Now, I totally can hear all the background noise, totally miss all the detail on other systems. 

calvinj

‘It is usually against those who spend money on more expensive equipment and cabling. Why is this so prevalent?’

Its called PENnIeS Envy!

They either don’t have one, can’t afford one, or are intimidated and feel others equipment  (not literally) …are bigger!

 

Thats my logic!

 

This issue doesn't put me on the defensive or make me angry.

It's pretty simple, actually. Sometimes someone tells me I cannot hear something, and I ask if there's another ways to listen. Often, there is.

Hearing, like the other senses and taste in general, can be developed. I have learned to hear better because other people have helped me to become attentive in a new way. 

 

                                              Once again:

     No one can tell you whether/how your system, room and/or ears will respond to some new addition.   There are simply too many variables.

     LIKEWISE: no one can possibly know whether a new addition (ie: some kind of disc, crystal, fuse, interconnect, speaker cable, etc)  will make a difference, in their system and room, with their media and to their ears, without trying them for themselves.   

     Some companies offer a 30 Day Satisfaction Guarantee, so- those that are actually interested, have absolutely nothing to lose by trying (experimenting with) such.     

     Anyone that knows anything about the sciences, realizes that something like 96% of what makes up this universe, remains a mystery.       

     For centuries; humanity’s seen, heard, felt and otherwise witnessed phenomena that none of the best minds could fathom, UNTIL they developed a science or measurement that could explain it.     

     The Naysayers want you to trust their antiquated science (1800’s electrical theory) and faith-based, religious doctrine, BLINDLY (their credo: "Trust ME!"). 

     Theories have never proven or disproven anything.  It’s INVARIABLY testing and experimentation that proves or disproves theories/hypotheses.   

     IF you’re interested in the possibility of improving your system’s presentation, have a shred of confidence in your capacity for perceiving reality and trust your own senses: actually TRY whatever whets your aural appetite, or- piques the curiosity, FOR YOURSELF.         

                 The Church of Denyin'tology HATES it, when THAT happens!