a 3 way design speaker with the ESS Heil type sound


I have tried Klipsch RF-7 lll, ADS 780,880, 1290 ll, 1590 ll, ESS 3 ways with HEIL, and Daedalus Speakers. I still own all of these. Is there a speaker with the bass slam and dynamics of Klipsch RF-7 lll, and the midrange and tweeter sound of ESS HEIL, that is as beautiful, efficient, and easy to drive as Daedalus Speakers??

I have VPI prime. AT 760 SLC mm, and Sumiko Blackbird HOMC. Phono preamp is Ayre P-5xe. I run balanced out. I also have a Graham Slee Accession.

I use my Line Magnetic LM-515 CD player with balanced outputs. I like the sound. Great bass and extension. No fatigue with tube buffer output.
I have a Marantz SACD 30n for streaming, and SACD use. The Marantz is definitely a weak link.
I have Simaudio 740P balance into Simaudio 760A.
kinda dry sounding. Thinking this magic unicorn speaker (if existed) would solve my problem.
or do I need a good tube preamp??

looking for advice

128x128sputz

*Loud fanfare*  Yay, pics! *L*

Would one object if I cut to the chase with some outboard X-overs I have?
I've an older dbx 2way, a more current Behringer 2496 w/sub out, and an ESS Eclipse 2241AM which seems to be a rare bird item....

On that latter one, any insights or comments on it would trigger high gratefulness from yours unruly.🤞🙄

Bi-amp is easy, multiple means of splitting off a sub...or not.  A/B entire, but I'm a First Watt believer even if no tubes involved...although I wouldn't cringe to own one.
But no rush on that, I can get as complex or simple as desired or needed.

8", huh?  Fav of the single driver crewe....  All forward, no back?  Curious, given the AMT dipole in cut-away slots...🤷‍♂️

@avsjerry I’ve an older dbx 2way, a more current Behringer 2496 w/sub out, and an ESS Eclipse 2241AM which seems to be a rare bird item....

 

Electronics Crossovers:

Why not test and try the 2241AM. I have one of those too :), but don’t use it right now. If I had two of the same amps I’d try it again. Maybe some bits to replace inside due to age. Might be a future retirement project redo. Try that if you can, and then compare to your Behringer, w/sub out. That might sound better if you have really good subs. That sounds like a good idea too. Go for it!

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Rear-V:

Re: AMT Di-pole rear "V" design is something I tracked to with another group of engineers when ESS Labs got bought out and was shipped overseas to Europe for a number of years. See ESS 450 below. Saw this in euro and us photos too.

ESS generations of the Co:

Later they went over brought it all back on containers/boats. I’ve got photos of Transar ATDs in rows that came back to LA stored, argh.

Future:

At one point I had this dream of waiting til they are done and buying ESS, what was left of it, and bringing it right back to Sacramento CA as my last bucket list retirement project. Good to have dreams. No need, I can build my own now :) I had a local audio chain ask me to manufacture/build them and they would sell them in their hi-fi room. I guess I wanted to keep my designs private, just for me LOL.

 

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Another photo for inspiration. :) ESS 450 not regularly seen here in the USA.

Hey they even had your vision for 7" drivers with AMT, here it is.

ESS Connoisseur Series AMT 450 Loudspeaker

 

 

 

 

Back to the OP, hahah, @sputz asked for some 3-ways. These are somewhat unobtanium. Transar ATDs.

Posting just for fun. How’s it work, don’t ask...LOL.

Bouncing flying-saucers for midrange. Big sub too.

 

Another I found on the net posted by some lucky bloke.

Sorry for the historical sidebar posts, :), Back to reality, and for OP @sputz - here is another 3-way AMT 

https://www.wharfedaleusa.com/collections/elysian/products/elysian-2-bookshelf-speakers

Wharfedale USA logo, Link to Homepage

Elysian 2 

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Treble: 3.5" (90mm) Air Motion Transformer
Midrange: 6.0" (150mm) coated fiberglass matrix cone
Bass: 8.5" (220mm) coated fiberglass matrix cone
Nominal Impedance: 4Ω (compatible 8Ω )
Crossover Frequency: 360Hz, 2.9kHz
Frequency Response: 35Hz ~ 22kHz (+/-3dB)
Sensitivity: 89dB (2.83V @1m)
Recommended Amplifier Power: 25 - 250W
Weight: 67.2lbs
Dimensions (HxWxD) 27.6" x 13.1" x 17.0"
 

 

 

Splitting hairs and depending on your definition of what a 3-way is, or 2.5 way with internal passive radiators, or the GoldenEar 3 is a 3-way and passives.  

https://www.goldenear.com/full-range-tower-speakers/triton-series/triton-three-plus