Phono stages: Hagerman and Sun Valley 1616 possible giant killers


In the course of researching phono stages I came across two that if all the comments are true might certainly be giant killers ( defined by yours truly in the 5000 dollar price range ).  But alas, so much of what I read in reviews , both professional and audiogon users, doesn't always pan out.

So, has anyone had the opportunity to hear either the Hagerman Trumpet or the Sun Valley 1616? If so, I would be interested in your sonic thoughts.

As always, I appreciate your insights and would appreciate the absence of snark!

rivinyl

OP,

"Do you think the Hagerman competes with phono stages in the 3-5 K price range?"

Absolutely: "good enough, DONE"

Speaker/Amp/Preamp/Sources: in that order I keep rejecting ... until I achieve ’involving, dynamic, revealing yet relaxed’.

My MX110z’s phono, my friend’s Hagerman Phono, I think either are end game/stop looking, if it breaks just get another one: thus they are equal to anything at any price even though I haven’t heard the other choices.

Done for Now: If my good enough (had to have remote volume and sound as good as my prior Fisher 80az tube mono blocks), Cayin A88T amp broke, it would be a total ’now what?’ research situation (limited by my need for 16 ohm taps).

Done. If my Sony xa5400es sacd player died, my MX110z tube tuner preamp died, my TT81 died; my Acos Lustre GST-801 tonearm died, my X2000R Reel to Reel; my Mitsubishi LT5V Vertical TT or Luxman SQ-N150 Integrated Amp died: I would search for money not bother with any research, just gather $, whatever it cost to get another one.

Only scarcity would force me to research, luckily, age 76, I have the patience and alternate equipment to keep listening while searching/waiting.

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My friend may one day want to try a low output MC cartridge, and I imagine he, like me, would use a SUT so he can keep his ’done’ Hagerman Cornet2 MM Tube Phono stage. He could get the Hagerman Trumpet MM/MC discussed here, expect very similar sound,

but he has an early Cornet 2 Kit and it has a rectifier tube. seller sent him a variety of good but used tubes, including 3 different rectifier tubes. We were both quite surprised how much difference the rectifier tubes made. I never experienced that with my Fisher 80az 5V4 rectifier tubes which I checked twice a year and renewed a few times over the nearly 50 years I used them before selling them to Steve at VAS. That's how you know for sure that tubes last a long long time.

 

 

Generally i agree with @mulveling . Jim Hagerman is living his best audio and music life on Island time. Very high value music and well engineered gear. The OP could stretch and get an ARC Ref phono 2 se or any number of super phono stages Lamm, CJ, Herron, etc… where you won’t have to imagine giant killer status.. ( i own 2 of the above )… but if my budget was constrained near $1K and i wanted tubes, the Hagerman would be on the list…

thx.. i know @bkeske aka Brian @noromance also a Brian… I haven’t heard Brian K Hagerman but believe he has found a CBS Hytron he loves w variety of carts including a Benz.

Maybe he will weigh in

Welcome to another episode of Life of Brians….

@rivinyl 

I would definitely give Zesto a look/listen.  Never heard but almost went with a Andros II.

I have an EAR 834 clone and its warm sounding so maybe the newer EAR like the Classic or 88PB?

Warmest I've had was the Tavish Adagio, but its also two box.

I have a PH9.0XT and with Reflector and Siemens its pretty good.  Probably not as warm as you'd like, but not as clinical as the stock tubes.

sorry I couldn't respond via PM