Critical listening and altered states


Ok, this is not a question about relaxing, but about listening to evaluate how the system (or a piece of gear is sounding).

What, in your experience, are the pluses and minuses of altering your state of mind for listening? This can include anything you've used to affect your everyday state of mind, from coffee, beer, scotch, tobacco, to much stronger — and psychoactive, dissociative — additives.

What do you gain by altering your consciousness in terms of what you notice, attend to, linger on, etc?
What causes more details to emerge?
What allows you to stick with a thread or, alternately, make new connections?

Or perhaps you like to keep all those things *out* of your listening; if that's you, please say a bit about why.

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I will go further, if listening music is not already an altered state of consciousness for you, you have a big problem...It is a kind of deafness which also is in the neurological litterature...

Even speech sound and musicality can induce an altered state of consciousness( hypnosis or chorus singing etc )

Even just listening to music for some people is sufficient to induce altered states of consciousness. No stimulants are needed.

Thanks for this interesting article .

This is well documented in the scientific literature. Here is just one example of a book on the subject - Herbert, R. (2011). Everyday Music Listening: Absorption, Dissociation and Trancing. Aldershot, Ashgate.

Cannabis is relaxing and can make the "flowing state " easier for a musician...

But in some case it can be handicapping as for Chet Baker....Heroin is not pot...

Interesting article thanks...

 

https://www.leafly.com/news/lifestyle/louis-armstrong-and-cannabis

Some quotes from Louis Armstrong on the utility of "gage" in his musical career.

Our only reference for timbre is acoustic instruments played without sound reinforcement. The recording process alters it as do the playback instruments/components. Also we have so many non acoustic instruments, we have no reference for timbre with this. If this true how can stress be caused by imperfect timbre.

 

Levels of ASC in any particular individual cannot be known by any of us. Many report very high levels of musical engagement with very ordinary equipment. It would seem logical to suggest those who seek and need highest quality audio components are more resistive to high levels of ASC. On the other hand, considering there are differing levels of ASC, perhaps those with the greatest needs equipment wise wish to have even higher levels of ASC than previously experienced. In this case audiophilia is an affliction in which, just like other addictive drugs,  tolerance may be reached which means even greater amounts/better equipment needed to maintain the high.

 

Now, the above contingent on what are the goals for any particular audiophile, perhaps the equipment itself brings about certain levels of ASC. No doubt humans can lust after material objects, think about how many humanize these objects, men often give their cars women's names. My neighbor has males names for my cars.

Great post thanks.

 

 

In this case audiophilia is an affliction in which, just like other addictive drugs,  tolerance may be reached which means even greater amounts/better equipment needed to maintain the high.

 

Now, the above contingent on what are the goals for any particular audiophile, perhaps the equipment itself brings about certain levels of ASC. No doubt humans can lust after material objects, think about how many humanize these objects, men often give their cars women’s names. My neighbor has males names for my cars.

 

 

It is not the gear pieces who gave me ASC.

It was music rendition translated in an  acoustically relatively correct manner...

"timbre" is not only the sound corresponding to a know non electrically amplified instrument, even if in many case it is for sure. It is more complex.

Timbre inform us about the vibrating sound source state, be it a MooG synthetiser or a Yoruba drum...

Timbre is also not only a tonal color microdynamics varying in space but it is through the deformation or distortion of information caused by any stereo listening a dynamical "volume" in space which also create an ASC by his mere existance not as a mere localized noise in Nature but as an artificial "sphere" of  artful meaning in our room if all is acoustically under control.

Acoustics parameters also not only the music content can create a strong ASC especially their convergence.

Consumers in a race to upgrade are not in an ASC but are perturbed by the boredom caused by their lack of  acoustic control over their experience of music from which they evade by purchasing easy "solutions"...