The CD player is dead.......


I am still waiting for someone to explain why a cd player is superior to storing music on a hard drive and going to a dac. Probably because you all know it's not.

Every cd player has a dac. I'll repeat that. Every cd player has a dac. So if you can store the ones and zeros on a hard drive and use error correction JUST ONCE and then go to a high end dac, isn't that better than relying on a cd player's "on the fly" jitter correction every time you play a song? Not to mention the convenience of having hundreds of albums at your fingertips via an itouch remote.

If cd player sales drop, then will cd sales drop as well, making less music available to rip to a hard drive?
Maybe, but there's the internet to give us all the selection we've been missing. Has anyone been in a Barnes and Noble or Borders lately? The music section has shown shrinkage worse than George Costanza! This is an obvious sign of things to come.....

People still embracing cd players are the "comb over" equivalent of bald men. They're trying to hold on to something that isn't there and they know will ultimately vanish one day.

I say sell your cd players and embrace the future of things to come. Don't do the digital "comb over".
devilboy
I'm with Petty. I may download a few files along the way but nobody's gonna run me over a cliff if I have any say about it!
Nothing has been taken away YET, Mlsstl. I just see this target painted on the back of the CD Format. Who is ready to pull the trigger, the MP3 crew who can't shoot straight on sound quality. I believe the intent is to lower the Standard for the remaining 10% of us. As if the 90% can't
stand the competition, I know, I know, It makes no sense to me either. As if we, CD, and our 10% are a real threat! Are MP3 types really that insecure? The worst Sounding Quality Format owning 90% of the market isn't enough? Can't share just a little of the Market, gotta hog it all! Never satisfied untill everyone is force fed from the same trough! Can someone please tell me why we can't have both? I'm sick and tired of hearing we can't have both because the 90% say we can't have both. Who are these MP3 90% types? Do they have Masters Degrees in Acoustical Engineering or something? Why would anyone take Sound Quality advice from this group, the anti-sound quality pro convenience group. It's like hiring a child to do Brain Surgery, because 90% said we should! Fine, experiment on your own brain! Leave me, my 10%, and the CD Format alone! Stop playing Format God, your not very good at it (MP3), and besides the position (LP) is already taken (CD)!
One way you can design a DAC to be immune to jitter is to ensure it can have the transport slaved to it. This is easier said than done from a design perspective. One company that does this is Lessloss. The have designed their DAC so that the CEC TL-51X transport can be slaved to it. The TL-51X has a clock input which is connected to the DAC's clock output. The digital cable is then removed from the jitter equation as it only has to perform the task of carrying the bits and not the additional task of synchronizing the clocks (where the transport clock is master and DAC clock is slave). This is where a good portion of jitter is introduced.

I own this combination and oddly enough I've decided to compare it in my system to a Resolution Audio Opus 21 player. As mentioned previously, a CDP should be able to offer a master clock arrangement due to having all the digital circuitry in one box. However, this is not always the case, there are some poorly designed CDPs out there.

If the Opus 21 gives me a sense that I can live with it. Then I would consider moving up to the Resolution Audio Cantata. This would give me a well designed CDP, with volume control, balanced operation, and the ability to take advantage of USB or Ethernet computer audio connectivity. For me that would provide the best of both worlds.
PO, I've no clue where you are getting your numbers. According to Nielsen Soundscan, there were 374 million CDs sold last year. Digital downloads accounted for 40% of the market.

That means CDs still represent the majority of music purchases.

While CD sales are trending downward and have been for many years, as long as people keep buying them, the factories will keep making them.

It seems you are determined to go all doom and gloom over something that hasn't happened yet. Yes, things are changing, but angst filled predictions about the future are probably more often wrong than they are right.

Rather than engage in projection, I'd recommend you relax with some Albeniz, perhaps played by Norbert Kraft. Very relaxing. And it's even available on CD.
I have a Bel canto cd2 transport, dac 3 vbs front end and so far, the cd 2 via the aes/ebu wireworld gold eclipse digital cable is the best sound from my dac, I have tried a laptop and the wadia ipod doc.