Dealer affiliations and attitudes, assumptions and lack of respectful engagement in audio.


When I started in Audiogon 20 years ago it was a different  place. There was pretty civil discussions with fellow audiogoners. There were audio dealers on the site and there were also hobbyists and it wasn’t a big deal.  I been on the dealer side/business side the last 7 years. Here is what I find. A lot of us tend to be quickly negative and nasty to those who disagree with us. We don’t have the sharing of knowledge spirit that we used to have.  A lot of us want to show others how much smarter than we are than them. In addition to that there seems to be an attitude that if you are a dealer you gotta be shilling instead of just telling the truth. More importantly there seems to be an attitude that audio is the only thing you do. I have a firm in my professional life that I have ran for 25 years. I’m smart enough to know you never know who you are talking to. I just think audiogoners have repeatedly started to step over the line and become HABITUAL LINE STEPPERS and not engage with the necessary level of respect.  A lot of us in the hobby just want to meet and have positive audio and music experiences. Not rage debate! WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS EVERYONE? 

calvinj

What you are describing is not peculiar to audio. It could be sports, politics or whatever. Grumpy old men take up tribal/identity positions. It's increasingly difficult to explore ideas freely. There's a tendency to play the man rather the ball.

...more like "Welcome to today’s good ol’ internet!!!!!"

 

Too many people treat this hobby and other hobbies, like politics and religion.  They are right in every way and everyone else is some sort of drooling slob.  I wish it was more like the car culture where the vast majority of people can respect and appreciate another persons car, even if it might not be their cup of tea.

We may not be able control others bad behavior but we can control ourselves and choose to just not engage in their garbage.

 

Edit:  Well that didn't take long as a couple of people just showed us, above.  

Don’t know about all that but can say in confidence that respect is typically earned not owed so if there is a problem there perhaps we all need to take a look in the mirror meaning society as a whole. 

Car culture people more gentle natured, really. The Alfa Romeo and Mustang forums I belong to can get very competitive and sometimes very nasty. Ducati forum mostly good people, nothing to prove. Nicest group of people I've encountered over many decades are classic Brit car enthusiasts, owners, something about slow cars and gentle people. I've found the faster the car the more you have competition between people, pretty much like high end audio.

ghdprentice

Each of us helps to set the tone. If we just ignore insulting and inappropriate behavior hopefully they will go away.  +1

It is sad, we all have brains and so we can chose to have an enjoyable discussion if we want.  But it is not so common. The advice above is helpful in that regard.