Let's talk music, no genre boundaries


This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.

 

audio-b-dog

"Ah, Happy Brave New World..."

Sounds like another version of the glass filled to mid-level......
Will Human music survive....?

Of course it will.  Talent will remain to introduce yet new variances and 'hooks' that tip that domino in your cortex and light up the rest of the cranium.

To believe otherwise, this soon, unleashes what you fear.

AI need's to learn and understand what Hope is...Why it's important that it never must be squelched in it's span with us.

Music is part and parcel to that Hope....
Deny? Die anyway....

Not so much into where 'serious music' has fronzen into amber...yes, wonderful.
I happen to be in This Era, error it may be.......looking at that jump off the edge.... ;)

 

@mahgister, I, too, was an alter boy and choir boy. My love of polyphony and liturgical music began with music in the church. I’ve been to Italy 3X and saw some stupendous churches and cathedrals there, as well as in the U.S. I have zero religiosity: all I want from religion are the buildings and the music. As for J.S. Bach, I could live on a diet of nothing but and die happy. I listen to his music ~12 hrs/day, every day.

I listen Bach almost everyday since my youth...

I never see Europe... The one day i was supposed to quit and travel i use the 1000 bucks to pay for my books order 50 years ago... A big order... I never quitted... But i dont regret the books order... Nothing beat a deep book which will change you life for the better  as a travel can do in some case (Not all case my friend came back very  ill ) 

@audio-b-dog 

RE: V. Morrison and "TB SHeets", @grannyring nailed it. 

You heard Mother Earth with Tracy Nelson on vocals? Great singer!  

Glad you are finding some enjoyable things on the list I sent. 

I don’t hear what I would call  "rough edges" when it comes to Strength in Numbers, though. They are all virtuosos and technically faultless. Maybe we define "rough" differently.  It’s curious that you didn’t like Winifred Horan. Here’s a taste of her regular band, Solas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGcruwhK_es

RE: "The world has been flooded with dross in all the fields of art throughout history", that's true enough but we've never had a forger as capable as AI, before. I don't worry about it creating more bad art -- I worry about it getting to the point of being able to synthesize so much about good art that it can "create" good art that cannot be differentiated from good human-created art. This is new. And I use the term "good" fully aware that it's a gross oversimplification. Perhaps "convincing' would be a better term, in this case. 

 

 

Bring back Progressive Rock!  I don’t think there is anything like Gentle Giant anymore.  Gotta be one of my all time favorites.

https://youtu.be/ifRnVEkqB2I

@stuartk ,

I like the youtube band you just sent me. Yes, they have rough edges, and I love her Irish accent, if that's what it is. One of the people you sent me to listen to, and now I've forgotten the name, seemed to be playing the same songs as David Grisman only sweetly on a guitar. It sounded like a classically-trained guitarist.

I realized I have a Chris Thile album playing on the Goat Rodeo with Yo-Y0 Ma. To be honest, Goat Rodeo throws me a bit because of all its changes of moods within one song. I'll have to try tackling it a few more times.

As for AI creating art. AI cannot feel love or the fear of death. AI cannot know what it is to have a broken heart. Until that is possible, and more--the deepest human emotions, like the grief of a loved one dying--AI will not be able to produce original art. And I don't think that AI can create good art now. It writes terrible poetry. I've asked it. It can, however, analyze a poem. It's damned good at that. I fed through chatgbt a very complex poem I wrote for my booi, and it nailed the poem within three seconds. That was impressive. 

At best AI will be derivative, perhaps blending the work of a number of artists. I believe that art is a product of human mortality. And AI is not mortal.

@mahgister 

I read the intro, preface, and the first chapter of "The Ever-Present Origin." I'm not sure if I will read the rest now or later. I'm in the middle of "The Plumed Serpent" by D.H. Lawrence and I want to finish it. Although, Lawrence's constant repitition and old style of writing (I've been trained to use one modifier, whereas Lawrence can string together a long list of adjectives) might drive me away from the book.

I think "The Ever-Present Origin" might overlap with me on the research I've done for my book. Our Ven diagrams might have a lot of overlap. I'll have to look further.