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Religions are social institutions...

They work as such and play their role in each culture...

Attacking religions is preposterous or useless..

Mystics in all religions are often  "heretics",   always free individuals, sometimes imprisoned because they disturb the institution...

If we speak of spiritual in music, the religions matter not so much, but the mystical insight of the musician matter...

Religions is no more an obstacles than a chair... It serve a purpose sometimes well sometimes not...

The feminine and the masculine are polarities in each of us male or female... What matter is the balance...

 More and more woman in politics for example will not improve politics if we live in a bad political set of institutions... There exist too much example of female psychopaths, nevropaths or sociopaths in politics to disprove this point...

 the fact that you observe a lost of balance between the polarities by the predominant power of one over the other  dont means that the feminine power will solve the problem by virtue of its nature... balance is needed thats all ...

 Do you know "the master and his emissaries" of Iain McGilchrist ?

He is a neuroscientist who describe the lost of balance in our civilization but not associating with male/female concerpt but with the modes of attention and their relation with the hemispherical brain...

This book will be very useful for you...not as deep as Gebser but deep too ...

@mahgister 

I must admit that spirituality in music is difficult to talk about. Especially from my point of view because I see religions as something that get in the way. But first, of course, the composer must have a depth of feeling and spiritual connection. If that is the case, then any metaphors can be used as a lattice on which spiritual music can be strung.

@mahgister 

I too am talking about balance. And my point, which I have been researching for many years, is that we live in imbalance. Patriarchy. It cannot be denied. And so, yes, we must find balance. Some people have found balance even in our imbalanced world. But that does not mean that the world is balanced. Just look at it. Can you call our world a balanced world? Through history we see that people once lived differently. If you look up the dig at Catalhuyuk, Turkey, you will find a city that had no defensive walls. No weapons were found. Their "religion" had feminine and masculine deities. It is evidence that once humanity lived in a more balanced world. What I am doing is recognizing the imbalance of our world.

I believe through my research that in a world in which there is no thumb on the scale of balance and imbalance, women are very strong. They were naturally the first shamans because they had insight that men did not have. They still do, but we dismiss it and squash it.

The fact that there are psychopathic, sociopathic women proves nothing. Again, from research I have done, psychopaths are born with minds wired differently. Sociopaths look like psychopaths but they were not born that way. But those exceptions do not contradict what I am saying. Look at history, look at the way we live today. And yes women have also been infected by our societies. But I see much more hope and promise in them than in men. 

A very long topic, and I am writing a book about my beliefs. There is much, too much information for this forum.

I will read your book ..

It is evident that our social fabric is completely unbalanced..

The human social fabric is a living organism like our body...

as our body is divided into three main function: nervous system, respiratory/circulation system, members system,or thinking,feeling,willing,our social fabric cannot operate in a healthy manner without a complete understanding of these functions and their directing principle.

Culture/education correspond to thinking and is ruled by a principle of total freedom and independence...

Politics correspond to feeling, values perception,intuition, and is ruled by sovereignty and equality between men at the root of democracy...

Economical life correspond to will and the fraternal possibility to participate and associate in works...

if we dont makes this threefold social fabric imbricate layers the ground of our life, we are facing the possibility to reduce this threefold fabric to two opposite power: one totalitarian power in politic (communism) or an oligarchical economical power (capitalism) with no real democracy in the two cases.

We are right now facing the reduction of the threefold fabric to one single layer of absolute control : transhumanism hive of cyborgs (anti-christic and demonic in Nature)...

Our actual neo-liberalism has its roots in the mimetic desire at the heart of men (René Girard deep insight) as understood by the genius Calvinist Bernard Mandeville the social engineer of modern capitalism, whose main idea, "in the fable of the bees" is to operate as God plan it in eternity to solve the scarcity problem using our inevitable sins as a positive tool...

The conclusion of his fable, root of capitalism is : " the private vices makes the public virtue"...

Thinking about Calvin predestination the genius Mandeville thought, placing himself in the God head : how do we solve the creation of wealth problem, in a period of scarcity, after the loss of leadership (after Cromwell) and the popular demand ?

Simple, we use sins as a motor to create a social engineering of the social fabric.. I will not explain here how Mandeville did it... Read him...

Mandeville works was put in the fire as a work of the devil (man of the devil ) because glorifying the usefulness of the vices in his new social construct...

I will only say that Adam Smith was inspired by Mandeville, whom he plagiarized by making him presentable and by transforming the concept of vice with the concept of self-interest. Marx read Mandeville and held him in high esteem. Freud did not invent the concept of the unconscious; it was Mandeville who said that every man is unaware of his true place and identity in society. Mandeville treated people by making them talk and confide in each other, as Freud did later. Hayek, the great economist, called Mandeville: "The Master of Us All."

Now we see that the social engineering of society composed of psychopaths,nevropaths,sociopaths, as described by Mandeville in his own vocabulary created capitalism and the market idea but more the marxism itself is only a consequence of this social engineering.

We are with capitalism and communism in a two-fold social fabric in perpetual war as enemies.

To progress we must understand what is a threefold social fabric...

If we do not understand soon we will go into the absolute totalitarian singular control, worst than neo liberalism the last form of capitalism , and worst than communism...The transhumanist of silicon valley dream is absolute technological control...And more because this demonic religion want immortality and recreating a new God (A.I. )

Rudolf Steiner predicted and gave the remedies in all fields seeing what was coming ...

Steiner was a universal genius and a seer a combination rarely seen. (Swedenborg was one)

@audio-b-dog - I don't do operas and the only time I've seen the symphony was with Metallica at Berkeley Community Theater and with a band, at the symphony hall, doing the music of Jerry Garcia. 

A number of years ago I decided to take a Gideon's bible from a hotel I was staying in and I read the old and new testaments from cover to cover just to see what all the fuss was about, and that passage probably stuck in my memory more than anything else (except for all that psychedelic stuff in Revelations and the instructions for building an ark). 'Lest they become as thorns in your side'.... 

The Jews were told by their God to take the Holy Land by force, killing everyone who lived there.

@audio-b-dog - and I believe that was when they returned to their ancestral home after wandering the desert for however long they wandered the desert for.