The death of ultra hiend audio


Verity and DarTzeel last year, now MBL, ultra high end audio manufacturers are facing their demise and they have nobody but themselves to blame. What do these companies have in common: too much investment in creating the very best and when that fails raising their prices bottom up to recover their losses and inevitably charging 2x what the same product cost just a few years ago. Ego, greed and poor management can only result in one thing!

hiendmmoe

I'm always curious about who purchases audio at this price level. I presume a certain percentage are 'true' audiophiles, therefore, longer term journey with incremental system upgrades. I also presume many not really audiophiles, audio systems just another show piece for displaying status and wealth. 

@kerrybh 

You have summed it up perfectly! My cable guy, a young man in his 20's, installed my TV stuff one day. Upon exiting he passed my audio system and remarked, "What is all this stuff?" Upon explaining that it was my stereo that I had been ever changing since I was a kid (now 65), he laughed at me. He showed me his phone and told me his stereo was right here. Fewer and fewer people want this stuff, and more and more people are dying off who have it. Supply and demand, and the insanely priced companies are the first to go, but there will be more.

I agree on the baby boomer and young people thing. But how hard could it be to stay in business if lets say you have $200K item with $50k built in costs which leaves $150K profit. I admit this may be an extreme, but a firm doesn't have to sell many units with the huge profit margins possible with ultra high end products.

Any business can fail if it’s sufficiently mismanaged, and unfortunately high-end audio companies are typically started by audio engineers or audiophiles with little business background who wouldn’t know a SWOT analysis if it bit them in the ass much less actually bothering to conduct one.  But as others have mentioned this is a declining market as boomers age/die out — in fact I don’t have any friends or acquaintances from GenX on down who own or care about having even a halfway decent stereo system.  At best, even the wealthy ones have mediocre home theaters that are horribly set up and calibrated.  Younger generations’ attention is so diluted what with social media and portable/convenient audio that the thought of sitting down in front of a dedicated audio system to just listen intently to music isn’t even on the radar and may well never be.  My only faint — and it is very faint — hope is that GenY and Zers who seem intrigued by and are buying turntables might eventually look to upgrade their listening experience, but my guess is that they’re more into it for the nostalgia and the cool factor than ultimately upping their sound quality, so a $1500 entry-level system is about as far as they’ll likely end up going.  What with a declining customer base and now tariffs on top of it I don’t envy even well managed high-end audio companies (although cable manufacturers with their insane profit margins will likely fare better than most).  My guess is this may play out in a similar fashion as it might in the college arena in that the uber high-end and very low-cost institutions will be fine but the relatively expensive mid-level schools will struggle as their pool of potential students shrinks, their already nosebleed tuitions continue to rise, and they struggle to justify the ROI on a multi $100k tuition bill.  Likewise bespoke audio companies like Wavac, TIDAL (speakers), Berning, etc. will likely always have a niche with well-heeled audiophiles as well as being luxury goods that attract the wealthy who just want and will pay for the best the best so will do fine because they don’t need all that many customers to thrive.  On the other end of the spectrum the cheaper mass market/ChiFi brands will also do ok as they cater to the “I just want cheap and good enough” crowd that will thrive on continued high volume for their earbuds, headphones, all-in-one sub-$1000 audio systems and speakers, etc. (again assuming they’re well managed).  Getting younger generations to spend more than a couple thousand dollars on a dedicated stereo system is likely and realistically largely a pipe dream so audio companies who cater to those more mid- and even higher-level hifi systems are the ones I envy least as their market base continues to dry up and tariffs eat into their already relatively thin profit margins and/or force them to raise prices in the face of shrinking demand.  That’s just a sinking lose-lose proposition that will only get worse given demographic and market trends that will not only continue but likely accelerate going forward.  Anyway, just my take on the situation FWIW. 

I had a manufacturer tell me once its way easier to market to the supper rich and sell 50 pieces at $50k profit then 50000 pieces at $500 profit. Just the logistics and service requirements can be daunting as the quantity sold increases. So, they chose to sell expensive systems to the few to avoid the other huge logistic costs, servicing (post and presale) of selling to the masses. I think this may get some into hot water as the markets slow due to other issues going on i.e COVID, tariffs, slowing markets etc.

 

Also, the over pricing of gear is getting obvious to most of us, especially if you have a technical background. Looking inside an expensive piece and seeing similar parts quality as much less expensive pieces gets you thinking what am I paying for. I don’t think the cost to design etc, statement is holding up anymore. There really aren’t much for new designs in the audio market other then maybe some digital systems, and some newer amp designs like class d.