Maybe someone can enlighten me.


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Congrats and I feel ya. The current state of the country has stolen most of my joy.

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So what was my infraction. Maybe it was empathizing with another member?

Hurry though. This won't last long either.

secretguy

@cleeds 

You just continue to miss the point, though I’m sure it’s inadvertent.  I’ve shown how political discourse is happening on this site.  I’ve shown how inconsistent moderator actions are.  All I’m suggesting is if we don’t want politics, let’s make it clear, and let’s enforce it consistently.  And I would be happy to take a stab at drafting language that facilitates our intent.  I don’t see how that’s controversial in the least, unless somebody just wants to disagree to disagree.

mdalton

You just continue to miss the point ...

Not at all. You're upset over what you call "inconsistent moderator actions" and want to have a hand in drafting changes to the rules here.

I'm happy with the rules as they stand. They're not perfect, but allow the moderators to exercise discretion.

Like I said, I supported moderators’ choice to delete OP’s comment. 

But if I saw the exact same comment on another forum that doesn’t have audiogon’s recent history of political thread-jacking, I wouldn’t bat an eye. 

So these things are situational. The old story about the judge and pornography.

At the end of the day it is moderators’ call, which is expressed in forum guidelines.

@cleeds 

Im actually not upset at all.  I have no dog in this fight.  It is true that I don’t think a flat-out political ban is necessary, but I would be perfectly happy to continue as a satisfied audiogon member under one.  I have dispassionately pointed out what appears to be the inconsistent application of ambiguous rules that has, however, upset some other members from time to time.  And I’m a big believer in the sentiments contained in John Donne’s famous Devotions (replace “church” with Audiogon, lol!):

“The church is Catholic, universal, so are all her actions; all that she does belongs to all. When she baptizes a child, that action concerns me; for that child is thereby connected to that body which is my head too, and ingrafted into that body whereof I am a member…

Another man may be sick too, and sick to death, and this affliction may lie in his bowels, as gold in a mine, and be of no use to him; but this bell, that tells me of his affliction, digs out and applies that gold to me: if by this consideration of another's danger I take mine own into contemplation, and so secure myself, by making my recourse to my God, who is our only security.”

In other words, if with a minor tweak to the rules, we can address the concerns of some of our members, even if you are perfectly happy and don’t think it’s necessary, I think it’s worth doing.  Would you be less happy with clearer rules (that still preserve moderator discretion)?  Hard to see why.  So why not show a little empathy for others, and maybe even improve the forum while we’re at it? That’s all.