Do you think you need a subwoofer?


Why almost any one needs subwoofers in their audio systems?

I talk with my audio friends about and each one give me different answers, from: I don't need it, to : I love that.

Some of you use subwoofers and many do in the speakers forum and everywhere.

The question is: why we need subwoofers ? or don't?

My experience tell me that this subwoofers subject is a critical point in the music/sound reproduction in home audio systems.

What do you think?
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"Too much Bass", an addiction! You are dead right, SirSpeedy.

I just started weening myself down off heavy bass out of my subs this weekend. For the last couple of weeks I've been listening to an artificially high level just because I could and it felt GOOD.

But, over the last several days I kept getting the feeling that it was too much. No matter how much I turned up my main speakers, the bass was just too prominent.

So, little by little, I've been turning them down. Not intentionally or conciously, just every once in a while I'd get up and turn it back a little.

It's still too much, but a lot less than I had. I figure by mid next month, I ought to somewhere near reality.

On a side note, yesterday I moved all the furniture out of my living room and moved my system to the other side of the room. Someone just tipped me off to the fact that I was losing a tremendous amount of midrange due to the open wall behind the speakers which looked down onto my dining room.

I also moved the subs in between my mains instead of outside them.

Good God, was he ever right! And my low frequencies are much more even now according to a test disc I've been using. I've only got two problem areas now - a massive 24-34Hz boost and a nearly complete suckout 54-64Hz.

This 24Hz bump is huge, but so little music strays into that I area I haven't noticed it as of yet, except for the test tone notes. Which is why I kind of like to think of it as a free sub amp EQ boost.

The 60Hz suckout is a different matter, altogether.
"The first time you can hear the subwoofers right blended on your stereo home audio system: YOU NEVER COULD LIVE WITH OUT THEM AGAIN, ANY ONE CAN, period"

Nope. I can live very happily without subs and their associated costs and problems. Fortunately, spending lots of money is not required for me to enjoy music. Maybe when the industry can offer good products at fair, reasonable, honest, pricing (IMHO) I would consider upgrading.
Darkmoebius,you will find that as you lower the Sub output(using gain or placement,though you may try lowering cutoff point)there will be "Additional Information" that will appear,as well as a deeper soundstage.There will,also,be an even greater sense of high freq info.Too much bass will thicken up the sound,overall.Try listening without the subs.Then after a day or two,try to adjust for Maximum stage depth,with a very slight underpinning of low freq.When you get it "right",you'll immediately know it,as the system will "open up",while retaining proper "weight"!Best of luck!
cdc - By your reaction, I'm assuimg you had two high-end subs hooked up in true stereo mode with a high pass to your main speakers hooked up in your room? You found they didn't offer a suitable return on your investment?
Tonight my next door neighbor very generously agreed to loan me his sub for a couple of days, so that I can experiment with stereo subs. His sub has almost nothing in common with my horn-loaded sub, so the test isn't perfect, but it will do for my purpose. I have it located opposite my sub, in the right corner. I also want to evaluate both subs located even with and even slightly in front of the satellite speakers. This will be a little inconvenient due to the size and weight of the horn sub.

Will share my observations in a day or two.