P75 seems more sophisticated than Black Cube

I forgot to mention in the above post, the Musical surroundings is a Stereophile class "B" component, not that I take it at face value, but I have to do personal comparison and it deserves the rating if that means anything..

But if the Dynavector was 300.00 retail as it should be, I would have bought it Day 1... but in its price range I could not justify or even find it to sound better.. But both the Surroundings and dynavector have a type of cult following, but actually I think the musical surroundings is much more reviewed and highly praised than the dyn. as well...

So the Dyn. is build quality like a 99.00 Sony DVD player and thats fine,
The Musical surroundings is like a 4000.00 Wadia transport if you want to get technical or some visualization but both in the end are a simple box...
But even then the sound matters most, so I am not trying to push anything here, but its from my experiance.

you are way to hung up on the build of the p75, matrix. don't know what cart you're using, but if it's not a low output mc, then you're missing the full power of it. cause with a low power mc, it's as good as anything under $2k. many others have said this, and i'm just agreeing with them. with a mm or a high output mc, you probably can do better, but not necessarily at the $500 price point that the p75 will run you. so don' worry about the outside build. that means nothing. it's what's in the box that counts, and dynavector has build a very high quality product.

Not hung up at all, I simply said at the same price point why would you not buy the better built box? Beyond that I said the musical surroundings inched out the P75 in sound quality as well... So my opinion is get the most for your money, thats it, and in my case the musical surroundings seems a better offering and sound, but it is slightly, but not much more money than the Dyn. thats it... I was giveing someone an insight on the units and the difference I found, sorry I offend anybody, but facts are facts and I did not sugar coat them.. The P75 is a fine box and I would guess Sight unseen someone as I was would be a bit surprised at the cheap build quality vs. the other units that was my only point, but for the money the MS' is a bit heavier competition.

Just to be clear again, If you can get the p75 at a very good price vs. the others than it is a no brainer, but I would not pay retail with the "company" it is in at that price range. Dynavector has great products no doubt.

The whole concept behind the p-75, was that all the production cost was put in the circuitry, so dyna could put out a revolutionary product at near budget price, i have tried this unit as well, and find with a low output mc, running thru the phono enhancer mode, is pretty amazing, i am fascinated with this little unit, may not be much to look at, but it performs way about its price point.