P75 seems more sophisticated than Black Cube

you are way to hung up on the build of the p75, matrix. don't know what cart you're using, but if it's not a low output mc, then you're missing the full power of it. cause with a low power mc, it's as good as anything under $2k. many others have said this, and i'm just agreeing with them. with a mm or a high output mc, you probably can do better, but not necessarily at the $500 price point that the p75 will run you. so don' worry about the outside build. that means nothing. it's what's in the box that counts, and dynavector has build a very high quality product.

Not hung up at all, I simply said at the same price point why would you not buy the better built box? Beyond that I said the musical surroundings inched out the P75 in sound quality as well... So my opinion is get the most for your money, thats it, and in my case the musical surroundings seems a better offering and sound, but it is slightly, but not much more money than the Dyn. thats it... I was giveing someone an insight on the units and the difference I found, sorry I offend anybody, but facts are facts and I did not sugar coat them.. The P75 is a fine box and I would guess Sight unseen someone as I was would be a bit surprised at the cheap build quality vs. the other units that was my only point, but for the money the MS' is a bit heavier competition.

Just to be clear again, If you can get the p75 at a very good price vs. the others than it is a no brainer, but I would not pay retail with the "company" it is in at that price range. Dynavector has great products no doubt.

The whole concept behind the p-75, was that all the production cost was put in the circuitry, so dyna could put out a revolutionary product at near budget price, i have tried this unit as well, and find with a low output mc, running thru the phono enhancer mode, is pretty amazing, i am fascinated with this little unit, may not be much to look at, but it performs way about its price point.

Sounds good, I was giveing comparison direct thats all.. I would not have said anything If I did not try all these units, just worked out that way, But its true if it works better with the very low output MC and the MS does not if someone compares the two then p75 wins... I was simply just bringing it in the open if you are in the market and did not hear of these other units at the price point you may look into it is all... Funny thing is Musicdirect.com which is a pretty serious Vinyl place, and literally have turntables set up at the sales peoples desks to listen all day while they work, They actually prefer the Trigon(sorry above I called it the Triad) over both but its MM only so its not gonna help the original question, so I was just throwing out options for the fact people were makeing comparisons with the black cube and all that earlier, which they carry too.

See link, I think they carry more phono stages than anyone I have seen , and have every brand in this price range which is kinda nice. 2 pages worth

http://www.amusicdirect.com/products/category.asp?category=130