ZYX Universe and Lyra Titan


I've been reading a lot about the Universe lately but have not read any comparisons with the Titan. Anyone heard them in similiar set-ups? Since I own a Helicon, I receive about a $1,400 credit trading it in for a Titan. Is the Universe $1,300 better at $4,700? I recognize the subjectivity of the question but does anyone have any strong opinions? Thanks.
richardmr
Sorry Cello my notes said starch the boxers and no starch in the shirts... my bad.
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Raul,
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It has been almost year since I swore off responding to you out of frustration. After this post, I am guessing it will be a long, long time before I waste any of my time responding to any more of your ignorant or rude posts.
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I went back over all the threads to check and I never said that the UNIverse was the “best cartridge” as you stated that I said. Here are my two quotes:

On 1-28-05 “It might be the best cartridge out there at any price.....”

On 5-08-05 “The UNIverse is just one of the best cartridges available by a clear margin”.

Those quotes are not me saying that it is the best cartridge as you quoted me. This is a typical example of you twisting or mis-stating the facts. This is why I have no patience or respect for your opinions.
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Telling me to sell my UNIverse when you have never had a UNIverse in your own system: what is wrong with you and where do you get off giving such advice when you have no idea how my system sounds or how the UNIverse sounds in my system or yours (this is rhetorical, please do not respond) ?
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Cello, perhaps Raul wants to buy a Universe cheap and he is just trying to depress the s/h market :>)
Well, I don't think, that Raul wants to influence the 2. hand market, it's his opinion. Others think different and some are sad, that the rest of the world does not follow their "experience".
Even Mr. Schroeder ( just for example, because he is always here to write a comment ) is V-E-R-Y thin skinned, when there is a comment about his arms which is not in awe. I understand it, he lives from it and the other ones ( like me ) are unexperienced listeners, have bad systems or whatever.
Good analog Reproduction depends from quality from a few factors, like Turntable, Phonostage, Interaction with the Tonearm and the wire in it and the rest of it.
A Forum is a platform to share interests and to share own experiences, a good chance for a "User" to think about a few things, which are probably not written in a magazine.
But is all true ? Well, don't know, a Forum is also a super platform to create a hype or to sell things easier.