Anyone wish they had a rumble subsonic filter?


I sort of do. I see my woofers moving due to ultra low frequency signal when I play certain LPs. Doesn't affect the sound, but I don't like it. Anyone have a solution for rumble, since modern preamps no longer seem to have subsonic filters? Scoutmaster on a Gingko Cloud 10 on a solid rack on a cement floor, is what I have.
240zracer
240zracer...The 18 Hz rumble filter attenuated everything. The mix-to-mono approach can use a much higher frequency, although 180 Hz does sound a bit too high. If you don't use a subwoofer you will need to buy a line level device. But you don't need to buy a whole new preamp.
Hello, I use a 20hz filter which I believe is necessary for any LP playback system. Since my system is very capable of reproducing low bass I also use a rumble filter which monos the signal at 38hz. 180 hz is too high to sum to mono. Try the 20hz filter first then if you still have a problem you may need a rumble filter. The two types of filters are for two different problems and 20hz is the first one to address.

This all depends on your system and its bass reproduction abilities ie: tonearm/cartridge and table interaction and its bass reproduction and your speakers ability to reproduce low bass. I think stereo reproduction is important to at least down to 50 hz and lower if possible.

My 20hz filter and the rumble filter are in the Marchand Bassis.
Bob
Thanks Bob. I just talked to Marchand. They do indeed have solutions, the Bassis being one of them. They also can supply the very large inductors needed to add a passive high pass circuit to the woofer crossover itself. I don't think I have rumble, just a bit of subsonic woofer cone movement. Looked at your system. Very impressive!
My feeling is that the KAB is a state of the art device having used it. I am not technically very knowledgeable but the KAB website would lead me to believe that the rumble it is attacking at 140 hz. is strictly related to vertical modulation caused by warps, whereas other subsonic crap which is actually recorded right onto the record is eliminated at much lower levels. Kevin at KAB would be able to shed more light on this if you contacted him. I can only tell you that my experience is that the KAB essentially did the same job in my system (in terms of eliminating woofer pumping due to subsonic issues) as my new (and much more expensive) phono preamp with a very sophisticated subsonic filter (-9db @ 10 hz, -18db @5 hz and -48db @ 2 hz) does.

And don't confuse what's in the Bellari or some of the cheaper phono stages with a top notch high quality subsonic/rumble filter like the KAB if your system really deserves it. I recently had David Hadaway (at DB Systems) install a very basic subsonic filter in a MM phono stage of his that I purchased used for my son's system. He was going to charge me all of $10 to do it, but I told him to bill me $20 (great guy, great products, great service). It was simply a matter of soldering in a capacitor and that phono preamp is now -3db at 27 hz. which is certainly fine for that system and has eliminated all woofer pumping.

As it stands, FWIW, I have the KAB unit now sitting here doing nothing, which I would sell for a reasonable price if you are interested. It will involve buying another set of interconnects as well, but I can assure you it will solve your problem in a high quality way.

I would wager that your speakers (as mine) are ported.