good old tuners going obsolete


Well I didn't getting any feedback on my post about the Marantz ST-7001. I know it is one of many that will be the new wave of the future. Already radio stations are advertising that they are launching HD channels. Which means that if your using that much cherished - - - - - - - - ( fill in the blank with your favorite tuner ) you will not be able to pull in any of the HD channels, you will be limited to only the channels you are receiving now. And it is my understanding that some of the stations are already planning on putting different programing in the slot that is available to analog tuners. Of the high end tuners I have been able to trace so far, only Marantz and Magnum are making HD tuners. What I just can't figure out though, is why people are so willing to shell out big bucks for these analog tuners here and on ebay. They will soon be next to worthless :(
kt_88
That certainly takes care of TV, but we're talking about radio here.

I just called the engineer at our local NPR station, and asked him specifically about a timetable for analog radio conversion, and he said that none exists. If fact, they're just now writing a grant for their HD equipment, and won't have it installed until mid 2009 at the earliest. He's not worried about missing any deadlines.

I asked him about sound quality, and he said that while the HD bandwidth is limited to 96k, it's an AAC stream and thus, just as Apple claims with their iTunes downloads, the sound quality is about twice that of an MP3 at the same bitrate. The problem will be when stations want to run multiple broadcasts and start splitting up the stream. The limit is 96k total, so the quality of each stream will be limited.

There is another station here streaming at 64k AAC+, and it sounds pretty good, not quite the frequency or dynamic range of the analog signal, but quieter, even on a good analog day. If stations will utilize their full bandwidth for one broadcast stream, HD might be pretty palatable. I fear, though, that commerce will win out over quality, and we'll rarely if ever see a full 96k stream.

I also find it interesting that the drop dead date for analog TV is 2/17/09, about a month after Bush leaves office. I predict that the first big act of whoever gets elected will be to stay the FCC mandate, and that analog TV (along with analog radio) will still be alive for a number of years. The marketplace will fix the time of death for analog broadcasting, not the government.

David
Is there anything on the radio worth listening to? I live in the NY metro area and frankly, it seems like a wasteland....
"The marketplace will fix the time of death for analog broadcasting, not the government."

Armstrod,
I hope you are right. I will hope that FM analog will live on for a while.
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hd radio does not stand for "hi definition", it stands for "hybrid digital". with resolution less than that of mp3, it certainly isn't anything resembling high resolution audio. and, its sideband artifacts can really screw up adjacent fm channels.

while most commercial fm station's audio quality is abysmal, the sound quality of a good station broadcast thru a quality tuner will easily rival the best digital & analog rigs. all it takes os for you to have one station you like, to make it worthwhile owning a high quality fm tuner. 89.3 wpfw in washington, dc, is all it takes for me. and, no, conventional fm isn't going anywhere any time soon. the fact is, that hd radio is expensive technology to implement, & it doesn't really offer most stations any worthwhile adwantages over standard fm. reception - especially in the car - is not any better, & in many cases, (especially in the car), it is worse.

ymmv,

doug s.