OK, record is now clean, how about the Stylus?


There has been a lot of emphasis above about keeping the STYLUS clean as even more important than cleaning the record. I use an Onzow Zero pad before each side of an album, then some Stylast stylus treatment.
Two questions: what do you think of that regimen (expensive)? what do you think about dipping the stylus on some Magic Eraser for cleaning (very cheap)??
rsasso
Hello rlwainright, You may want to read some archived threads about the Mr Clean ME if you haven't, to help understand what actually is being done, which I don't see as excessive.

What has been suggested, is that first, the Stylus is lightly brushed with a Stylus Brush to remove any light fuzz-loose dirt (total time takes to do this is about 5 seconds at most). Then just cue the Stylus onto a thin cube of the ME positioned on the Platter once, or twice (another 5 seconds) Then lastly again a very ight brushing to insure no dust loosened by the ME, or any micro-particles are left on the Stylus by the ME (another 5 seconds at most)

No Cleaners, Liquids, Alcohols, etc used in this quick 3 step process, and the reason why it is suggested to be done after every LP side, is that it doesn't take long for baked on crud to stick to a Stylus from heat, and once a substantial amount of deposit is stuck to the Cartridge, it becomes much harder to get off.

This method above pretty much insures you don't give those nasties much chance of accumilating. Many of these newer Cartridges, with thier ultra small Stylus' are said to play deeper-better in the groove-groovewall, extract more information with less groove surface noise, and the downside I understand, is they also get dirty faster as well.

As an aside, more, and more manufacturers it seems caution-warn against the use of wet cleaning, especially any which might contain alcohol, due to the possible use of hollow Boron Cantilevers, and the possibility of alcohols attacking the adhesive holding Stylus to Cantilever. To see how small these Stylus', and Cantilevers are, one can only imagine then what very tiny amount of adhesive bonds Stylus to Cantilever.

Lastly, the beauty of ME, and a Stylus brush is the cost. $2-$3 gives you a virtual lifetime supply of the ME. Hope this helps. Mark
>> Oh! So you're one of those sons of b****s that sold us that crap that clogged our records and stylii. And, when did you say before? <<

Huh? Not sure what you are saying here, please explain. I sold expensive cartridges and gear to clean them. We usually used the SC-2 fluid from DiscWasher to clean the stylus. It did the job.

>> It's not always what you see on the stylus, but rather what you don't see build up on the stylus.<<

You are wrong. What you see is *everything*. Keep in mind that I used a microscope when looking at the stylii - you can see *everything* on the stylus when doing so. And I'm telling you that you can play 5-10 albums before seeing any build-up on the stylus.

And we were certainly using stylii that reached down deep in the grooves.

You might comsider reading your posts before submitting them, some passages are incoherent...

-RW-
So, here is what I actually do, I am ready for the onslaught of comments why it is a bad idea:

While the lock is still on the arm, with a magnifying glass, I actually push my Onzo UP onto the stylus while watching carefully, and now do the same with Magic Eraser. I personally think I have better control of depth and gentle pressure, than lowering the arm into the Zero stuff or into the MR.

Any thoughts?
To Rlwainwright,
Please don't get upset with some of the responses you get on this or any other thread; I have learned that people here have VERY strong feelings about their rituals. Right or wrong, I think you have to at least respect the opinion of someone who has examined a bunch of styli under a microscope! Thanks for your input. There is the strong possibility that most of us are a bit nuts with our record cleaning, stylus cleaning, stylus treating, dust removing rituals.
Sometimes, I get so tired of thinking it through, that (I admit it), I just put on a record, get a glass of brandy, and listen to it. Kind of nice
Oh, I'm not upset, this isn't life or death after all. I just wish that folks would present some reasonable basis for opinions besides "I believe" or "I feel". Beliefs or feelings have nothing to do with the cleanliness of your stylus.

It is quite simple to *see* if your stylus needs to be cleaned, a 40x - 100x microscope will do it every time. You can also check wear patterns which would help in achieving perfect stylus alignment. Everyone should take the opportunity to see their stylus like this, it's very cool.

Just to keep the pot stirred, did you also know that you shouldn't play a given track on a record twice in succession because of groove deformation from the diamond being dragged thru the plastic? You see, there's this little spec. called the "modulus of elasticity" for vinyl...

Best Wishes,

-RW-