Kleos Sibilance

Yes Curio....there are a number of posters who don't know what they are writing about, yet take the position of experts. You have to take the good with the bad and understand that the internet allows everyone to display their stupidity, and intellect.

Concerning the Benz LP argument, let's don't forget that cables really can make a big difference due to changes in capacitance, etc.

So at least 3 people have mentioned the phono stage, both here, on the telephone, and my dealer via email. (did talk to Bill BTW, he is trying to help) I will sub in my Dynavector phone stage but can someone point me to an explanation of how a phono stage can cause sibilance and/or mistracking?

Thanks

So I have about 38 hours on it using 40min/LP as a multiplier.

Put the Dynavector P75 MkII in place of the GCPH. Surprisingly it sounds pretty good with the Kleos. Has a peak someplace around 1-2k which makes it sometimes sound a bit lowfi but this could be the cable. Had Hero balanced from the GCPH to the NAD M3 integrated. The P75 has bass more like the GCPH when used with the Kleos.

Anyway, let the P75 warmup and the sibilance is still there. Playing an original pressing of Court & Spark. Man the Kleos can separate the voices.

Heater's on 70.

BTW, using 100ohms as I was on the GCPH.

Hi Robob,

I unfortunately don't have the solution to your problem, but I've struggled with sibilance distortion quite a bit as well, and I have a long thread about it. Maybe some food for thought in it somewhere?

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1245595534&openfrom&1&4&&st0

(Sorry, the sound clips and photos aren't up on the server anymore)

Had to read it, thanks.

So, based on my testing/experience and yours I can conclude that it is the arm/cart interaction. As I have stated to some I had some issues, including sibilance, with the Shelter and just went up on the VTF. Can't do that with the Kleos, JC might send Ninjas . And I kept remembering that my V15IV MXR will track anything, even on the Project 2.1. Including sibilants and the Telarc cannons. Of course I haven't seen anyone mention the V15 cheats. It has a brush on the front that doubles as a dampener. Of course it also cannot reveal the two different reverbs on Sir Paul's voice during the same word. The Kleos can. I also keep thinking of the VPI tech telling me they prefer heavy carts. On the VPI website they do not offer and apparently do not believe in low output moving coil cartridges.

So let me state it more directly, it is a tracking issue. It is not the phono preamp or the setup or the alignment or a lack of breakin. Goatwuss tried alignments with the VPI jig and with a Mint. I have been setting up turntables since the early 70's and have never had sibilance not be a tracking issue. Maybe in rare cases it could be something else, but never in my experience. I, like Goatwuss, was open to other ideas.

Leaning towards a refurbed Sota Star with a SME 309.

I am still open to new ideas.

Thanks yet again,
Robert