Kleos Sibilance

Hi Robob,

I unfortunately don't have the solution to your problem, but I've struggled with sibilance distortion quite a bit as well, and I have a long thread about it. Maybe some food for thought in it somewhere?

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1245595534&openfrom&1&4&&st0

(Sorry, the sound clips and photos aren't up on the server anymore)

Had to read it, thanks.

So, based on my testing/experience and yours I can conclude that it is the arm/cart interaction. As I have stated to some I had some issues, including sibilance, with the Shelter and just went up on the VTF. Can't do that with the Kleos, JC might send Ninjas . And I kept remembering that my V15IV MXR will track anything, even on the Project 2.1. Including sibilants and the Telarc cannons. Of course I haven't seen anyone mention the V15 cheats. It has a brush on the front that doubles as a dampener. Of course it also cannot reveal the two different reverbs on Sir Paul's voice during the same word. The Kleos can. I also keep thinking of the VPI tech telling me they prefer heavy carts. On the VPI website they do not offer and apparently do not believe in low output moving coil cartridges.

So let me state it more directly, it is a tracking issue. It is not the phono preamp or the setup or the alignment or a lack of breakin. Goatwuss tried alignments with the VPI jig and with a Mint. I have been setting up turntables since the early 70's and have never had sibilance not be a tracking issue. Maybe in rare cases it could be something else, but never in my experience. I, like Goatwuss, was open to other ideas.

Leaning towards a refurbed Sota Star with a SME 309.

I am still open to new ideas.

Thanks yet again,
Robert

Dear Curio,
I remind you that my set-up has a fairily good quality : I have the Pluto 9A / Symphonic Line RG6 and the Reed 3Q / Thorens TD 124 II as you can recall if you visit your last thread : "Anyone here knows the Reed 3Q tonearm?"
The most interesting thing in that thread was that -inspite that I dislike the LP while you admire it, both you & me we have the same conclusions about it's character. The difference was that I blame the Benz LP, but you came to blame the Reed 3Q.
Anyway I'm not in a mood to argue about this and I hope to enjoy your Benz LP with your Technoarm.

Dear Stringreen,
You doesn't have to be rude.
It is just a matter of taste & priorities in audio.
But I suppose next time you would be more wise & just say :
"YES MASTER"

Dear Robob,
I thought you were clear that you did not hear mistracking on high pitched tracks, just sibilants & grunge on male vocals. This was the only reason concerning a better matched wiring loom in your system.
But at this present situation, I strongly recommend for changing your arm ... or to trade your Delos for a Benz LP.
(just kidding)
As you ask for a new idea, I would like to point something better : Denon DP80/SME 312S
Kind Regards

Sorry...I mean Kleos

Geoch....I find it interesting that you should think I was talking about you....and which camp are you in..the intellectual, or the stupid.... oh, I got it...before I read anything more from you, I think you should realize that your first sentence to me should have read "You don't have to be rude".