Brinkmann vs TW Acustic

Dev, I and Suteetat were referring to the audible difference, if any, between 33.3333 (I don't recall how many decimal places Suteetat proposed) and 33.3334, or the like. The software itself (the recording and mastering process) is not accurate to that level. Whether one can hear such a speed difference, if the speed is constant over time, is open to debate. I happen to think even you would not hear it, but perhaps you would. However, the main point of my response to Suteetat was to say that it is not so much super accurate 33 and one-third rpm as it is speed constancy over even small time intervals, i.e., not "average" speed, that is of prime importance in assessing a turntable. And that is only my opinion, not necessarily gospel.

Suteetat, great post. On point.

PS has anybody ever tried Sutherland Timeline on recording cutting machine? I wonder if those machines will even past the test? Or whatever stamper making machine or whatnots?

Wouldn't it be naïve think that the music on vinyl has not been altered or even tweaked during the whole process of capturing and mixing the recording and making the record?

Not to say all vinyl has that flaw, but you have to think that a lot if not most vinyl is affected to some degree that way.

Isn't the making of a record like making sausage? You might be better off not knowing goes in to it.

Dev, what speakers do you use?

Dev, I think your point about TW not doing great in terms of Timing and Rhythm is quite understandable. I dont think it is to do with speed stability. Even though a TT has stable speed the perception of great timing and rhythm has lot more to do with the design and construction of the TT. What materials are used, what kind of isolation is used etc etc. In those design aspects the UK designers are champions and as you may already know, a simple $500 Rega TT possess an amazing sense of timing and rhythm which eludes many/most $50k TTs made in the USA or Germany. Be it the VPI, TW, Transrotor, Scheu Analog...you name it. There are exceptions though but they are exceptions, not the norm. I know I have stuck my neck out but that is how it is.

By the way which TT do you use now ?

Pani,

I assume you are referring to PRAT. A word with different interpretations. But while I get what you say, I would say that there are UK tables which also don't posses PRAT. I don't want to mention names as to not stir up emotions. I would agree that Rega & Linn are PRAT champs, but I feel it,ought be at the expense of what they miss. Or better said, the perception of PRAT is something that always comes with a price. Some love it, others like it and some grow out of it. What direct drive has PRAT?

Does live music have it? I will say if a ,usicians timing s all over, or even more so a drummer, it makes me crazy.