I've had a Thorens TD 160, 2 TD 125's, and 2 TD 150's. Three had original toneams, and 2 had different arms, ie Jelco 750d and SME 3009 II. I've also had a Rega P3, P5, RP6, and RP8 with Rega arms; TTPSU's were on 3 of them. After much interchange of various cartridges and many direct comparisons including Shure M95ed , Ortofon Cadenza red, Rega Exact, Rega Elyses, and Clearaudio Virtuoso, [among many others including V15III MR, HE and Jico SAS styli], I must say the vintage Thorens have been clear victors, and I now own no Regas whasover, only 2 Thorens, both restored; Although many would differ with me, I believe the Thorens are just more involving.