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Femto clocks ,every unit should have one

I was reading in Computer Audiophile even the .$400 Geek pulshas a a Femto clock. It is inexcusable for any credible company to not consider a Femto clock they are 1,000s of times more accurate then a a Pico master clock. We are speaking of a a Trillion times ,vs millions.
More accuracy ,equals less jitter more refined ,better resolution.
These clocks were several $1,000s a few years ago . Now a .085 Femto clock maybe $50 and made in the U.S.A the Geek puke use this.
I bought so Wyred SE dac then realized it has far superior low distortion parts but over looked a major part,the new kid in the block the Femto clock.i have been asking them to upgrade this dac most far no response ?
Why .they still have a lot of old pico clocks they want to off.
If buying any new dac a Demand a a Pico clock.BTW the vega dacs parts are not as close tolerance as the wyred SE dac,but it does have a Femto clock. Wyred needs now to step up to the plate .it sounds very good
It could be that much better with this clock.
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audioengr
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Just because a clock is rated on a bench with a $1K power supply to have 85Fsec of jitter, this does not mean that it will perform this well in the circuit. If the power and grounding system is not top-notch, you can easily get 500 psec of jitter using this clock. Its all about implementation.

BTW, I plan to put a FemtoClock in my Turboclock module, which I can use in any of my DACs and USB converters. This module uses individual low-noise, fast-reacting discrete Hynes regulators for each clock and 6GHz rated coax cables.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
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audioman58 OP
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Steve your products are always very good,my uncle is a digital audio engineer
And he said any quality engineered product she easilly be able to implement a Femto clock if it is same size .Steve on a new Femto clock how many hours if any for breakin ? .
audioengr
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Audioman - implementing a working femtoclock circuit and actually achieving really low jitter at the system-level are two entirely different things.

Break-in has to do with power supply elements, such as capacitors in the decoupling and power regulation. Usually an overnight run or a day is sufficient for these electrolytic caps.

Steve N.
Empirical Audio
chayro
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It never ceases to amaze me how some people just jump on the latest advertising buzzword bandwagon. The Sabre chip, the diamond tweeter, the ceramic driver, the teflon cap. All of these things may well be fine products, but as Steve N. points out, it is the implementation of the the "thing" that counts, not the mere fact that it's there. Virtually every manufacturer tries to find something they can advertise as instantly translating into better sound, but experienced audiophiles should know that it just doesn't work that way. They should know, but obviously some people never learn. Oh well...
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nonoise
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Implementation has always been the key. Look at silver or copper wires. Why do they sound so different? Implementation.

Another case in point is the latest John Darko review over at 6moons on the Antipodes DS Reference server/streamer. The ways it's "implemented" supposedly obviates the need for high priced DACs and USB cables. John claims that he gets the best sound he's ever heard just using the Schiit Bifrost DAC.

All the best,
Nonoise
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