How do I start?


I'm a newbie in this arena, but would like to get started. Probably like most people, I'm on a tight budget. I decided I'm going to just start by buying piece by piece. I've got a cheap 27" TV and a cheap DVD player already. My plan is to buy something each year for my system. My question to you experts is what should I buy first? I don't necessarily mean brands (but if you want to recommend some that's fine too) rather should I start with getting a receiver, speakers, etc.? I'm thinking about $1000-$1500 is my starting budget. Thanks in advance for any help,

sah22
sah223e58
Geez, where to begin?

Glen is right on target if you really want to jump in head first and to keep it simple. The Linn Classik and a pair of monitors (Triangle Titus for $499, Mission 780's, B&W's - lots and lots of nice stuff out there - listen to a couple of them and then pick).

I wouldn't do that, however, if I wanted to get into the hobby as a learning experience - only if I wanted to solve the problem of "I need better sound" so I can get on with my life (and DVD's, of course). If I wanted to learn about audio, I'd keep my money in my pocket - if I were you - UNTIL I had done the following:

1. Learned a bunch about the PROCESS (not products)- for example, how best to ALLOCATE your $1,500 budget to your: receiver, speakers (front, center, surrounds, and sub), source (i.e, DVD, CD), wires (or we call them, cables and interconnects). There have been some nice threads in the last couple of months on this site that will help you sort through this - conceptually, where to get the bang for your buck. If it doesn't start from a conceptual allocation, then any one component along the way can easily blow your budget.

2. Found out what my money could do, say $500 for a receiver? The used market is generally "suspect", but in my opinion, your worries can be greatly allieviated if you stick to the used market on this website, and possibly a couple of others. 99% of the members here at A'gon are honest (100% in my personal experience) and you can get twice the bang for your buck in the used market. You have to know what you're looking for and be patient to find a great deal. Use Google if you're looking for namebrand gear, but stick to this site for the wierd stuff (ha!).

For that receiver, go with the Outlaw Audio 6.1 jobbie for $499, but come to that conclusion on your own after a lot of reading (it's not available for audition because Outlaw Audio is an online only retailer). Or decide on something else. But remember, stick to your budget in terms of the relative amount you spend on each piece of gear.

3. Whenever possible, listen first. The easy thing to do is to narrow the field and then pick a winner and buy it. It's a lot more fun to extend your reasearch and do more comparisons and the end result will be a better match for your musical tastes. Keep an eye on this forum and use the search facility to look at old threads that relate to items you're interested in. Read everything you can about the low budget products for each aspect of your system, and try not to drool too much with the gear that is beyond your price point.

4. Make all of your major decisions in a month or two, and go with what you know at that time. Buy your components as quickly as possible once you start. You don't want to have speakers sitting around for 3 months waiting for the rest of it to come together.

5. Save some money for new music! With your new toys, it will all sound better! There are plenty of websites that will help you to identify audiophile quality recordings that will help any modest system shine.

6. Follow Angela's advice about cables. Keep it simple at first because the sonic improvements that cables add will not be nearly as noticable on a low budget system as they will be as you expand and develop your rig and shrink your retirement savings in the years to come.

Good luck and welcome. Oh, and follow Angela's advice as a general rule of thumb no matter what the subject!
I'll send you your PayPal funds for that last comment, Wmcmanus! :-)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/ is another discussion board dedicated to HT. I haven't spent any time reading anything, but it appears to be a good source.

best of luck,
angela
At the risk of appearing mercenary, I have some nice pieces that would fit into your budget. All designed to work together. A step up from what your considering. I have moved into bigger quarters and really need a bigger rig. If your interested e-mail me. I apologize in advance to all for this apparent breach of decorum.
I guess I disagree with the one at a time approach and I also think that life is too short to keep looking for nirvana. I would take my budget and allocate it as best as possible and bring up the whole system to its next level. That way you can enjoy what you have now and learn about the next steps as you save-up. Believe me, I sometimes drive myself crazy trying to decide should I upgrade now or wait until the next best thing is out.

Enough for generalities, the world of video is in a pretty high state of flux right now. HDTV, HD-DVD, DTS-EX and on-and-on. So I would take my budget and weight it more towards a set of speakers. In most appartments you can get away without the center channel and go with the phantom center (saves some money). And there are tons of great speakers here on Audiogon that you can pick up at a reasonable price. In order to drive the new speakers you will need a reciever and I think you should do well to stick with something from a couple of years back and remember that you will be fine with just Dolby Digital 5.1 for quite a while. If you have anything left you can think about some surrounds. Your choices here are going to depend on how you are able to mount them. Living in an appartment you most likely can't mount them to a wall so you will be stuck with either stands or maybe a bookcase. And therefore you may endup with a pair of simple direct radiating speakers. I think you will have spent your first allotment of funds by now but your next thought should be to a subwoofer.

I agree with the "make this enjoyable" sentiment so no worries.

Good luck and welcome to the 'Gon

John
Buying everything at once means the customer has to compromise on everything. Real people have to live with real budgets. Buying everything at once sounds like the approach my ten year old son would take. I would encourage a more mature approach to this obsession.