Opinions on Counterpoint Amps/Upgrades


Seems there are always reasonably priced Counterpoint amps around. They have their loyal fans, plus extensive updates are available through the original designer. Anybody who has had the SA-20/220 or 400 series or heard them I would be interested in your comments. I can't really afford the current SS Plinius/BAT or tubed VTL/ARC/VAC amps that are usually paired in reviews of my speakers (Alon Vs). Any help appreciated. Thanks!
rackon
Thanks for info, guys, I know that reliability has been a BIG issue with some of the Counterpoint gear. However, my goal with a SA-220 would specifically to get it upgraded for my hungry Alons, so MOSFET failure not really a concern. Newer BAT, Plinius, Classe, Pass, VTL, VAC et al amps beefy enough to drive Alon Vs are big bucks, whereas the SA220s can usually be picked up $800-900 so even with upgrades the total cost would be 1-3k less than alternatives USED. Just trying to gage the risk. Really appreciate hearing from the flks who have had the rebuilds. Thanks again.
I owned the sa-7/sa-12 combo about 12 years ago. The sa-12 failed twice, bigtime (once taking out a speaker in the process); the sa-7 failed once, but under circumstances that may be understandable. Right out of the box, they sounded great for the money, but long term reliability was a problem even with a manufacturer to complain to. Without one, and buying used, I wouldn't take the chance myself.
Dar, have heard a couple stories like yours, which was why I was posting thread. Was realy curious to hear especially from folks who'd had the rebuilds, because that's what I would do, and my specific interest in Counterpoint. Buy cheap SA-220 and have rebuilt. When the Mosfets go they're gone, plus they are a bit fuzzy anyway. In my perusal of the website, upgraded output devices appear to be much superior to original Mosfets anyway. The downside to this, I guess would be resale and no local dealer for repair if needed. It sounds like the guys w/rebuilds have had better luck with reliability and service. Thanks for chiming in.