I don,t Understand ????

To put some substance behind my anger(as someone put it). I worked for a Wire and Cable company where we sold speciality cables to the Automotive, Steel, Hi Temp. cables you name it. Many of the cables where of specail design, exotic materials like Teflon, ERP, Hypolon, Silica, Silicon ect. And I have been through most parts of the Wire making process. And guess what just like everyone else someone made are cable for us to are spec's. There are only a handful of wire and cable manf. AIW, BIW, Royal, Carol, Alcatel and a few others. I could buy 14 gauge Teflon insulated conductor and cable jacketing MIlitary Spec'd for 7.00 a ft from my competitor if I ran out. When Teflon was extremely expensive a few years ago. (The boys at Dupont know we like Teflon Cable and they stick it to us) Now if you goto XLO technical paper on Cable and pricing, they say 6N copper is 200 times more expensive as reg. wire. And Teflon is really really expensive too. But they forget howmuch copper and insulation is in a 1 meter interconnect? an Ounce or 2? the rest is filler, mica, glass? We had cable made for us penny's on the dollar. To put it in prespective.

Have you seen the Designer's Reference? It's a firehose! No wonder they want a lot to reterminate. This is not your your average Radio Shack zip wire, it's about the thickness of all 4 of your fingers on one hand together or bigger. I've listened to this cable and it blew my socks off! But with a new baby on the way the $3600 was out of my league for the moment. If you really want to talk about expensive, check out the new Transparent speaker wire at a mere $23,500, or anything Transparent for that matter. I own all SR and to me it sounds better than any other cable I tried, including thin zip cable :> If you saw the Designer's Reference you'd not want to do it yourself.

It couldn't be much more difficult than dressing a deer and our butcher never charged anywhere near $2600.00 for doing this. Though come to think of it he was a butcher and perhaps this is not a good analogy.

IAM GLAD THIS THREAD GOT STARTED. lET me start off by saying scott at synergistic has emailed me back with a new quote of 1000.00. Scott stated that he fallowed the formula that Ted had made.After talking with Ted this morning about me and my anger at such rediculous charges they changed there fee. Scott stated that we on audiogon perhaps dont realize the size of the cable and the work involved. I appreciate there response and fee change, but 1000.00 is still sticking it up my #%@. I think nordost is correct for there fee on such an operation, High end co. should remember who buys there product and without us ,,which there are very few of us really..they well be gone like so many high end co.
I would like to point out that SYNERGISTIC has since emailed me back twice..which a descent co. should with a good customer service.
Has far has lighten up is concerned yes they make a good product but SYNERGISTIC is the one that should lighten up.
How much does cable cost Not $3200.00 for 6ft.. gold is only $260.00 oz. remember

Evo845; I'm glad you started this thread too. And I agree that $1000. still seems a HUGE amount just to cut a cable in half and terminate, but OTOH they did drop the price $1600.-- which is a big improvement. Still, I wouldn't blame you if you decide to go to another brand.

I haven't yet contacted them about cutting and re-terminating Sig. No. 2 cables, but I think the No. 2 is a much smaller cable-- guess I'll find out about price. But I want to thankyou for not rolling over and for letting Syn. Res. know what you thought of their pricing polices for what should be a routine service-- you've helped out all Syn. Res. customers, and for posting here, all Agon members/readers.

BTW, I've used their trade-up program also. They do give you 80% of the value of YOUR product in trade value, but ONLY if you're spending twice the value of your product. So, depending on what you're trading in and buying, it can still get pretty expensive. Still, it's better than a poke in the butt with a sharp stick. Thanks, Craig