2. speakers
  3. 987652842

I am stunned

After reading these forums for awhile I can finally say that I am a skeptic no longer with respect to biwiring. I recently purchased a demo pair of Martin Logans from a local dealer and found that I did not have enough money to purchase a decent set of speaker cables. As I was getting ready to take the speakers home the dealer stopped me and offered to loan me a set of cables until I had enough cash (Great Dealer!!!) to purchase some cables. Well, when I got home I discovered that the Logans were easily biwirable and that the cables he lent me were biwire cables. When I auditioned the Logans the dealer must have connected the jumpers when I told him I was not interested in biwiring a set of speakers. I figured what the hell, lets give it a try. I connected everything up, popped in a CD and my mouth fell to the floor. Unbelievable. So from one ex-skeptic to anyone who has a doubt. Biwiring works, I am an EE and frankly do not care why anymore.
liguy
liguy OP
228 posts
 
Dekay, I apologize because I think I may have caused some confusion. My origional post was not clear as it could have been. When I auditioned the speakers at the dealer he asked me if I would be biwiring. I said no (Very foolish on my part) so he disconnected the biwire cables, installed the jumpers and used single cables for the audition. Once I got the speakers home I figured what the heck and removed the jumpers and conned the biwire cable (Best move I ever made). If there was any confusion I apologize and hope that cleared it up. Thank you all for posting as I am thrilled to read all of your responses.
garfish
1,840 posts
 
Dekay; don't read too much into my agreement with Redkiwi. It's as Paulwp said, I agree with the "spirit" of Redkiwi's post. Otherwise, IMO, in the near term, we've had enough of going around and around around about AB testing, ABX testing, science vs subjectivism, XYZ testing, objective vs subjective etc etc etc.

You must be feeling a little "frisky" and looking for some action though, heh heh heh. Yes, there are a few things Liguy could do to narrow down what is causing his recent bout of happiness, but I'm content to just let him do it, and happy that he's found a system configuration that he is really grooving on. BTW, I use bi-wiring but I've done it for so long that I forget why. Maybe just because Vandersteen recommends it very highly. Cheers. Craig.
dekay's avatar
dekay
5,394 posts
 
Garfish: I get it. Can Liguy use the internaly biwired cables both ways to test the difference in sound (hooking up both leads to the low frequency posts with a jumper) or is this not a good thing? It is of course up to Liguy as to whether he wants to perform the test. I do not know if I myself would want to touch a thing at this point if the sound is that nice. I swear that some of the times I have jockied cables around and then put them back in order, the sound was not as good afterward. I am going to pick up one of the "noise sniffer" pens described on the PS Audio site mentioned in another thread for my next cable venture and see if it will take some of the guess work out of it. It also drives my wife nuts when I keep jacking the cables around for days to get the sound back to where it was. Oh, and I wasn't really feeling frisky, just a little gas which is normal for my age. It has passed though.
redkiwi
1,092 posts
 
Hi Dekay. What I saw was a guy (Liguy as it happens) reporting an experience here. He did not misrepresent it but perhaps he could have been more specific about what he was comparing. The way I saw it was that what he did was no conclusive proof of anything in particular, except that he was enjoying his music. My post was an emotional reaction to this thread diverting itself once again into the "who has the biggest speaker cable" discussion - if you get my meaning - and I found it to be a bit disrepectful of the spirit of Liguy's post. But it was an emotional over-reaction and I apologise. By the way, did you try the "Rainbow Foil"? I tried it briefly and did not find any musically significant difference, but will try it again.
leafs
414 posts
 
Liguy your comments are not valid on biwire.You failed to take into account the reasons for the potential improvment in sound.
Was it really the biwire that made the difference.
You listened to them at the dealrs location.Different room different amps pre amps source.
If your Cd player at home is better than the dealers thats the source of your improvment not the biwire
Is your room a better set up probably.
Are your amps pre better suited to the Logans.
I suggest you hook them up jumpered and then biwired and listen.
I hope you see where i am coming from.As an EE you would think you would be more anylitical.
Where the volume levels identical,I could go on and on.
More to discover