Martin Logan's Prodigy

Hey, Doug. You are so right about speaker positioning when it comes to all ML's. I don't know whether having the bass driver attached to the panel is more or less difficult than a separate sub-woofer. I guess both are a speaker tweaker's delight (or nightmare). This is just part of the admission price with this entire family of speakers. I'm *still* playing with my set-up -- fractions of inches now make a difference. CLS's are renowned for their potential to take months of experimentaion with placement to get it right. Then tweak some more. The next steps are room treatments.

I have to admit that I do not believe I've ever heard any of the hybrids set up in an ideal environment. Only at dealers and it was evident that placment lacked the same detailed attention to placement as we do at home. The break-in issue is also very legit. Going through that myself with the paper drivers on my subs which, while a few years old, were virtually unused. At times there is a bit of an act of faith involved in this, given less than perfect listening environments and lack of break-in.

If you are ever in Los Angeles let me know and we can try to schedule a listen to my work in progress. Best, Jim.

I love logans, always have probably always will, but there has to something said about hearing them demo'd, Let me share my experience. I too have heard the prodigys and was not impressed. But let me say I believe and know it was the dealer setup. I first listened to the new odyssey in one room mated to a classe amp and arc preamp amp and cd player, beautiful sound, (hardly any dampening/reflecting material in the room)Then I went into the Big Room where the prodigy's were. Prodiys were mated to a complete Mark L. setup amp/pre/cd. Wow was I expecting some magic to happen. Boy did I get a let down. The sound was off, no imageing, bass was good but no umph, midrange was crystal clear but just there. All I could remember was my girlfriend saying " should speaker that cost 10,000.00 sound this bad compared to the 6,000.00 model". This is what is was,there was soo much room dampening material, on the rear walls, side walls, front walls with sound blocking this, sound absorbing that, tube trap here and there, that it really killed the sound that helps logans be logans. From what I could tell there was nothng reflecting from the rear of the panel to help great that great ambience that logans creat so well. You didn't get that wall of engulfing sweet music you have learned to expect from the logan name. With only a few songs under my belt, I thanked the sales man and left. I went home, fire up the system and listened to my logans with the sound that I have come to love from them. What I have found in the audfio world more than anything when is comes to that demo is, just like computers if something is wrong, look at the user not the equipment first. Just my 2 cents ...Dave

I agree with Dave. When I auditioned my pair of prodigy speakers in the show room which was 100% dampened. The sound was a let down. I begain to think I would stay with my martin logan Sequels of nine years. Than I took a chance and bought the pair, took them home and wow. A regular living room, sheetrock, furniture, carpet, rock fireplace and windows the sound was alive and the sweet sounds filled our room. Sometimes you just mustgo with your instincts.

Thanks to all who responded to my post. I appreciate your input. You ALL put a lot of thought into your comments.

All in all, I just HAVE TO HAVE electrostatic speakers. I just can't get over the ambience and wall of sound they provided.