my girlfriend & I tried over 10 diff positions


got some new speakers in, Michael Green Chameleons. It is amazing what speaker positioning does to the sound. Whether pointed directly inwards, facing forward, slight toe in, there is no right or wrong, just adjustment of soundstage height, width, depth, etc, the possibilities are endless!
Spent over 3 hours tweaking last night, better way to spend an evening than watching Corky Romano on DVD.
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Man is that ever blantant false advertising or what? LOL. I had my little brother over the other week and he brought over some CDs since he wanted to listen to my system. He was so amazed at the soundstage, even on my modest system. then after several hours (I hate to bug someone during heavy listening) I moved the right speaker. soundstage collapsed. Then I slowly moved the speaker back. He could not believe the effect speaker placement had. Now he's very interested it getting something a little better for his apartment! Ladies and gentlemen we may have a new convert!

A little back story commentary:

I had twice in the past (he has a 5.1 setup) moved his front speakers out from the wall, toed them in, to create a somewhat coherent soundstage and reduce the booming bass. And they set like that for a couple days before his roommate or girlfriend moves them back against the wall. (Why would you want to have them out in the room like that? It's stupid! - ) I don't think anyone (not even my brother) knew what a difference I was trying to make. Not one would notice the difference. Though I bet my brother could tell, now.

It was the same way for me, too. I didn't understand what a "soundstage" was until I heard a friend's system with Acoustat model 3s (ESLs). I had heard the system when he first got it, but was only mildly impressed. But once he had them set up "just right", it was almost a religous experience. "WTF??!? So THAT'S what a soundstage is!" Clouds parted, veils lifted, angels sounded trumpets. Alleluhja, praise the Lord! So that's WHY we have two channels, LOL.

I then spent the next three days getting my speakers placed just right, so they disappear and the 3D image immerges. If you had told me I had just dropped $1k in my system (or even $3k), I would have believed you. The whole experience was just THAT much better.

speaker placement = best tweak money can't buy. :-)
Hi Justlisten; I too was expecting something "different" on reading your salacious intro., but now that I've cooled down, congrats on the new speakers. And I agree about 110% that a huge part of good quality music has to do with speaker placement. Even modestly priced (but decent) speakers can sound excellent when properly set-up and located in the room.

For the new or uninitiated, this fact needs to be periodically brought up. Cheers. Craig.
aroc: so, did you try these positions whilst listening or between speaker placement trials? are jpegs available?

-cfb