Correlation: Money and Good Sound

Great thread

I think one of the problems is the "Latest and greatest" notion that plagues everyday life.
Especially when it comes to speakers. Anyone who has read a basic book on speaker constuction and has the very basic understanding of diffraction can look at a speaker and see it was designed poorly. Extra edges where they dont need to be, cosmetics that make it look real sharp but cause excess distortion of the sound coming from the speakers. etc

HT is one area where there have been massive jumps in technology, but alot of the gear you can buy that is newer and pricier is not automatically better. In my opinion, in amplifiers and especially speakers, there have been no "Revolutionary" changes since they were first introduced. They use the same concepts. As long as there is good constuction with good qualitys in a well thought out box, you have a quality speaker.

I think everyone should have a system like mine. Not to listen to all the time, but to pull outta storage and play with for a couple days, it shows that name brands are not the most important aspect, and that you dont have to spend ALOT of money to get good sound. I think once you get on the upgrade path it is very easy to shun away cheaper gear because it is too easy to assume that it is way inferior to the gear you currently have. Which it probably WILL be inferior, but not as bad as you might assume.

Dont get me wrong though, i know my rig is far far from where i want it to be, but even as now it still sounds good enough to enjoy. Hopefully in the next couple weeks i can look foirward to another small upgrade. :)

As with anything, in any market, in any hobby, there will always be some gear that can hold its own to much more expencive gear, but it might not fit the needs of everyone, and it does not garauntee synergy with other types of gear in the same price range, nor synergy with other gear reputed to compete with gear much more expencive.

Who knows, maybe the Pinnacle of audio gear is a $10,000.00 rowland amp connected to some $880.00 europas.

Attempting to match gear on price really does not garauntee anything.

I need to follow the advice here, because I'm one of the suckers spending more and more every time I upgrade.

Slappy, your post started out sounding like one Sean's. I had to read the author's name to make sure I wasn't seeing things. What's gotten into you?!! I expected a quote from you somewhere along the lines of...

"Who knows, maybe the pinnacle of audio nirvana is a $10,000 a year ex-Army dude connected to a $50 hooker."

Ellery has shown that even a well to do doctor can appreciate a second hand DVD player.

Ellery911 actually I thought that was pretty funny. So many people on AudiogoN seem to think they have almost the best system they can get and anyone who spent the money to buy that $14,000 amp or $16,000 speakers is just stupid, because they could have gotten something as good or better for 25% of the cost.

The point is well made that we can all justify what we spent while those who spent more are of questionable intelligence. Sounds like class envy! Maybe we should have a massive redistribution of HiFi gear, so there are no more systems that are not up to some illusive, but predetermined level. This is too similar to the people who castigate others for using SS when they have determined that only tubes can reproduce music at the appropriate quality level.

I would guess the Sherwood thing was a joke, but many down on their luck audiophiles (slappy for instance) have had to live with gear that would not comprise their dream system. Maybe there is a good reason that uppermidfi has a Sherwood receiver now. That doesn't mean his comments aren't valid, or maybe he's just a Bozo, since you know, we're all bozos on this bus.

Wow... so, I have a Sherwood S-7300 I think I'm gonna post here at auction, after reading this.

Money's not enough. You also need knowledge. There are units with comparable sound and widely different prices, and the reverse exists too--widely different sound with similar price tags.

If you've never heard what you can get for little money, you think you have to pay a lot. Getting to hear it all is difficult, though, and potentially somewhat expensive. It helps to have friends with experience. Longtime hobbyists, or people in the business. And it's surprising what good advice you can get from a manufacturer, if you write and ask what goes well with their gear.

Even used equipment can be a poor buy. I can name five or six pieces that are utter bargains, but what do I know about all the rest?

Yeah Ellery, give Uppermidfi a break, just cause he made a stupid statement. After all, it takes a long time of being an audiophile to realize that the BOSE WAVE RADIO is the absolute Pinnacle! HA HA HA HA
Actually i agree with nrchy, i think he was kidding around.

Gunbei, hey, it actually did look like something he would say, except less informed... and less coherent... and less technical... and less intelligent.. and less thought out...

I think the problem is my utter lack of my primary food source.

See, i had a filling fall out of my molar the other day, and i had to get it put back in. well, i ended up needing a root canal and they decided to do a deep cleaning on my gums and put me on a regiment of antibiotics.
Well one of the antibiotics i am taking has a HUGE warning in the damn BROCHURE that comes with it, and it states that while taking this drug any achohol consumtion may cause "Severe nausia, vomiting, shaking, and hot flushes"

Good times. Good times.