Maggie 3.6 owners -- please help


Hi,

In my search for audio nirvana (more than 1 foot wide) I am looking for alternatives to replace my Innersound Eros MKIIs.

I was wondering 2 things regarding 3.6s;

1.) is the size of the sweet spot larger than the Eroses? Are they better off axis than the Eros?

2.) I know they need room, but how do you think they would sound being placed 3 feet from the front wall?

Thanks for your help.

Mike
1musiclover
If you would like a larger soundstage and sweet-spot than the Maggies provide...Apogee Duetta Signatures may be of interest to you also.

Power requirements are along the lines of the Maggies...no toe-in is needed but should be at least 3ft. out from the wall and in med-large rooms only...bass response is truly full-range and will overload a small room.

Dave
Thanks for the replies.

Slipknot & Rooze -- I will using my Innersound ESL300 which from what I've read is a good amp for the 3.6s. While I'm sure there are better (Wolcotts for example) it will be a good start for me.

My room is 14x20 and the 3.6s would be on the short wall. They would be about 8ft apart. Perhaps I could leave them 3 ft out from the front wall (for aesthetics) and for critical listening, slide them out another foot or so. Are they easy to slide in and out? At least they don't appear to be very heavy.

At this point, I am leaning towards getting the 3.6s. But part of me wants to wait for the HiFi Show in NYC and check out what's new : ) VonSchweikert's VR4 Srs are supposed to be everything the Jrs are with more bass! Yeah Hah! Two months seems like an eternity now!

Thaks again for the replies!

Mike
Mike,
Three feet is a great start. They slide pretty easy on bare floor so if you can move them out a tad, go for it.

As a matter of fact, you've got me rethinking bringing mine out another foot into the room. The current 3 ft 4 in. I have them out is based on the calculations Rives Audio came up with when they did my room design.

I would think that your Innersound amp will be a sweet match for the Magnepan 3.6R.

Best of luck, and keep us up to date.
Slipknot,

I had my 3.6's at 68" for a while then was able to bring them out to around 90". It's a great improvement in stage depth and the bass has cleaned up a little too. If you can get away with it try it.

Also, if you have some foam around or something like a 2'x 2' acoustic foam panel, put it behind your speaker with one side on top of the XO box and touching the back of the speaker, and elevate the other side around 10"-12"
If you have the panels handy it'll take two minutes. You can also try it with a sheet of 2x2 cardboard if you don't have the foam.
Listen for better transparency, a wider/deeper soundstage and slightly better imaging. Adjusting the angle of the foam panel changes the tonal balance just a tad....the optimum angle depends on the height of your ceiling and the distance from the front wall, so you may need to mess with it a bit.

Rooze
maggies present some interesting options for you. You can actually fine tune maggies sweetpot. Since the tweeter is a line source you can toe the speaker in or out. Or keep it paralell to the listening position. Quite different from the innersound.
I beleive putting the maggie three feet close to the wall is bad. However with any dipole you have the option of using room treatment to kill the backwave. Some even say this is mandatory.
I'm lazy so I did not do it for you. But maggies' spec sheet gives horizontal dispersion for it's tweeter. I beleive it was 30 degree arc. check thier website to be sure. They should also have some info in FAQ sheet regarding the back wave.
generally speaking the maggie should be placed 1/3 of the way in to the room about ten feet from the listening position.
divide the distance from the side walls by 4. Place each speaker on the 1/4 distance spot. fine tune from there.