@ Charles1dad, Thankyou for your reply, I will take my time with the quest for a preamp, Hey, The only way to know what really sounds good these days is ask, I hope I did not frustrate nobody here, I do not trust pro reviews no more!, I find user word of mouth to give me the interest in a product, I understand there is different tast out there in what is good or not, and understand system dependency,instead of years of heart ache of tring this and that, I trust the audiogon community to give me a narrowed down foundation to start the quest, My system will take a long time to build, I started 4-2012, going on my 4th source as it is, It seems nothing is as it was made out to be after relying on pro reviews!, I am the type of audiophile that once I get this system done, and I'm satiesfied, I want to ride off into the sunset this time!, I care less whats better tomorrow, To me, A very good sound will never be absolete!