Cables more hype than value?

LOL! In the audio field, many 'technically astute' people believe that digital is superior to analog, that solid state is superior to tubes and that cables make no difference. There are also 'tecnically astute' people, like Ralph and Al, that do hear audible differences between source formats, tubes/SS and cables.

So an astute individual would know that they can't make blanket statements as immature as that (my sides more 'educated', na na na foo foo).

I agree with Jimyork's post on 2-23-13:

"The same kind of discussions go on between Democrats and Republicans".

There is no right or wrong here, only differences of opinions. Each side believing that the 'facts' support their claim, neither side listening to or changing the other sides perspective. So what's the point? Entertainment? Is that what this is? Entertainment?

Pass the popcorn.....

A reasonable person is always open to possibilities. Nothing is black and white and there are no absolutes: lots of grey area out there.

Self appointed high priests of truth are dime a dozen, regardless of field. Sad to say they are here in audio as well. Yes, there are extravagant, over the top claims and snake oil a plenty but we seem to be dancing around the issue of what some people plainly lack: hearing acuity or the outright refusal to pay any more than necessary for what they feel is enough.

This kind of forum will never sort it out. So let's just agree to disagree without the acrimony.

Next thing we'll see are protestors with signs and placards outside of audio shows denouncing the evil and unclean amongst us who would dare proclaim that we can do better.

When that happens, I'll know for certain I am on the right side of the equation as they will reveal themselves to be truly on the fringe.

All the best,
Nonoise

OK, I'll play a little longer; ten minutes left in my Lifecycle workout (my Agon posting time).

****And how, pray tell, did you come to that conclusion? And what 'stuff' are you referring to?****

A couple of clues:

1.You, actually, have pretty good taste in music. So, not all is lost. There's hope. :-) Anybody who likes Sarah Vaughn the way that you do can't be all bad. That's the good news.

2. The bad news: You demonstrate a pattern of making provocative statements and misrepresenting or misinterpreting what others say (write). Then, when it is pointed out to you, you completely (conveniently) overlook it and move on to your next provocative comment. This has happened several times in this thread, including this most recent exchange. You are too transparent in this respect for there to be true passion about all this "stuff" (the subject at hand, if you have to ask).

BTW, Sarah Vaughn's "Brazilian Romance" is a gem. Pretty good sound, too. But, a little bight; nothing a vintage MIT cable couldn't fix ;-)

To All:
I just dropped by to give a shout out to Irvrobinson. Frogman then addressed a post to me, and I answered. Thats just common courtesy. But I am finished with the so called 'debate' on wire. I have found that after things like this are over, I just feel bad.

I think the people of this entire site are some of the nicest people you will find anywhere. Smart, educated , well read and seem to have done well in life. A good bunch.

I was looking for an Academic debate, but we could not get away from stereo systems, money and personal opinions.

But, as Nonoise alluded, it ain't that important. I am PASSOINATE about MUSIC. That's it. The gear is just a means to an end. I wish we didn't need it. I would love to walk into my house and say, "COMPUTER! Beethoven's 5th". Just like on Star Trek. :) Maybe I'll see that before I go.

If I have offended anyone, it was not intentional. Just love to spar.

Now, I am finished with wire!!

Cheers.

****I was looking for an Academic debate, but we could not get away from stereo systems, money and personal opinions.

But, as Nonoise alluded, it ain't that important. I am PASSOINATE about MUSIC. That's it. The gear is just a means to an end. I wish we didn't need it. ****

Rok, I agree completely; and you, perhaps inadvertently, made my point. The problem with attempts to discuss these things is that "academic" and "music" are as diametrically opposed as just about anything. In fact, "academic" is an adjective used by musicians to describe "music" that is dry, soul-less, boring... The two don't mix.

Acrimony? No way! Wire is not important enough to merit acrimony in my book. Now, anybody that tells me that "Sassy" can't sing.... That's cause for acrimony.

Peace.