I have sampled a few of the posts on this recent DK thread and one paragraph from Jmcgrogan2 stands out (from my perspective):
"84audio and Johnrob, congrats on your informative posts. They are an act of class from DK users. Perhaps if Audiogon is exposed to more knowledgable and experienced DK owners such as yourselves, DK's reputation can be revived. There is no doubt that LSA is more of a class act than DK was, so there is always hope."
I can appreciate these kind of "bridge building" statements, but I participated in a much earlier DK thread in which Larry Staples (LSA) did not display much class at all. Since my experience with the product (at the time, VS-1 MKII Reference) was completely negative and I said so, Larry seriously called into question my ability to hear. I conceded at the time that I could have had a bad sample, but I my experience was reported honestly and with out malice.
I brought the discussion with Larry off line, and to his credit, he apologized, sincerely--I believe--privately.
I know manufactures get frustrated with the off hand trashing that they feel they unjustifiably sometimes get. They cannot control the situation (system set up) in which their gear is tested, etc. But...I did not report anything that I did not verify with an other listener (with no planting of my impressions first) and cross reference with other gear for comparison.
As a manufacturer, LSA and co need to just take their lumps from people who did not like their product but who did try the product for an extended period of time and gave it every opportunity possible to perform well. Chalk it all up to poor quality control, but to trash someones hearing ability in Audio is as close to fightin words as it comes.
The bashing did not all come from a gang of anonymous posters intend on ruining a mans life work, as Larry later complained. It sometimes came directly from those who should know better.
"84audio and Johnrob, congrats on your informative posts. They are an act of class from DK users. Perhaps if Audiogon is exposed to more knowledgable and experienced DK owners such as yourselves, DK's reputation can be revived. There is no doubt that LSA is more of a class act than DK was, so there is always hope."
I can appreciate these kind of "bridge building" statements, but I participated in a much earlier DK thread in which Larry Staples (LSA) did not display much class at all. Since my experience with the product (at the time, VS-1 MKII Reference) was completely negative and I said so, Larry seriously called into question my ability to hear. I conceded at the time that I could have had a bad sample, but I my experience was reported honestly and with out malice.
I brought the discussion with Larry off line, and to his credit, he apologized, sincerely--I believe--privately.
I know manufactures get frustrated with the off hand trashing that they feel they unjustifiably sometimes get. They cannot control the situation (system set up) in which their gear is tested, etc. But...I did not report anything that I did not verify with an other listener (with no planting of my impressions first) and cross reference with other gear for comparison.
As a manufacturer, LSA and co need to just take their lumps from people who did not like their product but who did try the product for an extended period of time and gave it every opportunity possible to perform well. Chalk it all up to poor quality control, but to trash someones hearing ability in Audio is as close to fightin words as it comes.
The bashing did not all come from a gang of anonymous posters intend on ruining a mans life work, as Larry later complained. It sometimes came directly from those who should know better.