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Sanders sound or parasound for big ESL's

Just wondering what you thought about either a pair of used JC-1 monoblocks to run big ESL's or a used Sanders/innersound amp. The JC-1-s can be had for around $3500 used, not sure about the sanders or innersounds.

I realize the Sanders has some pretty significant upgrades over the innersound and don't mean to start a Sanders vs. Innersound war. Both designed by the same person with the Sanders upgraded internally (the list is on his website). The Sanders gear isn't available used, or hardly ever because there just isn't that many units out there. Innersounds are easier to come by.

If anyone has had experience with either or both let me know. They would be used to drive A-1 Soundlabs. I don't have a preamp yet so I can match it to whatever amps I purchase.

Thanks in advance
lance_s
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coffeey
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innersound are you kidding?
lance_s OP
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Mike,

Thank you for your educated response. I have read every available review on the innersound amp and continue to be suprised at how well it's covered. Very neutral, loads of power and stable throughout the vastly-ranging load the SL's produce. For the money I believe I will look for a used ESL300 for the time being. The JC-1's I believe are a step up but I am not finished with the system yet so that may be an upgrade in the future. As you say, most of these amps have hit bottom or close to it considering depreciation. Thanks again for everything!

Cofeey,

Innersound is no joke. This is the product of Sanders who is now of Sanders Sound. He is well known for pioneering amps specifically designed for low impedences and high resistance. From everything I have read here on Agon from owners on the forums and reviews on line the amp was a deal at $3K new. At close to a grand used it's down right a steal.

My speakers will drop most amps on the market to their knees with very little audible volume produced. There are a handfull of amps out there that will do a great job at running the big Soundlabs, the innersound amp is one of them. And I am not aware of anything even close in the thousand dollar range. If you have some ideas I am all ears.
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ejlif
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Lance, I had the Innersound speakers as well and I will add that I had trouble powering them with the 300 ESL. I could clip the amp fairly easy. Whenever I wanted to crank them up it was a real problem. I got the 800 monos and that mostly solved the problem. I never did listen to the Innersound Eros speakers with the JC-1s though as I ended up selling them because I could not live with the small sweet spot.
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coffeey
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Sorry for the wording I'm all for the Innersound the way i wrote it came out wrong,Sorry,Innersound is absolutely no joke.I meant Innersound as a recomendation i can see how it looked now,.Please accept my correction.
lance_s OP
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Coffeey,

No need for apology. I understand your meaning now. No worries.

Ejlif,

I am surprised you clipped the 300's easily. Your Eros speakers must be quite a load or possibly your amp was running at less-than-optimal condition? Can the ESL 300 be run as a monoblock? I know sanders now makes his new amp as a mono but I thought if the ESL 300 didn't have quite the umph to push them a pair might do the trick.
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