Audio Research amps - balanced & non


Ideas/suggestions anyone?
I have an original ARC SP-10 pre-amp (perfect, re-tubing once in a blue moon but totally reliable after ~25 yrs so reluctant to replace) but I would like to replace my original D-115 amp with VTM 200's (i.e. balanced) or get a VT-130SE (also balanced) to bi-amp alongside the D-115 to drive the bass end, assuming that's even possible.

Question - can balanced power amps work with a 'pre-balanced' pre-amp like the SP-10, or even work in a bi-amp arrangement as the only balanced component? I suspect not but would like some user comments.
Thanks!!
westchr
Can't answer that as question as I don't know other manufacturers circuit topology. Even with an XLR/RCA converter
you don't have the inverting half of the balanced input so unless the input circuit can compensate for that, your not going to get proper output. This is true with ARC.
The input sensitivity of both the VT130 & VTM 200 are much different than the D115. Level matching may be an issue. Why not just buy another D115? If you need more power, a D250 maybe a better option.
The quasi-balanced interface that I suggested (using a resistor to ground for the (-) wire) gets you the noise pickup reduction benefit of balanced lines. It is appropriate for equipment which is single ended internally, and useful (instead of an RCA/XLR adapter) if the power amp has only balanced input.

If the power amp has internally balanced circuitry, and performs poorly single ended, (as appears in this case) the transformer suggested by Bob_reynolds is the way to go. To describe such a transformer as "junk" reflects ignorance.
Sorry Eldartford, it's not ignorance, but rather observations with my system. I have played the game with trying to use transformers to achieve balanced signals out of DACs. And the result was a loss of low-level detail and truncation of harmonic overtones.

Once a device takes away detail, and I can survive without it, as far as I am concerned, it is junk. For high resolution system, transformers in the signal path absolutely affect the sound. I suspect this would not be observed with a system loaded with other bandaid devices such as equalizers.

Comparing advice from electronics professionals and their theories vs. observing the affects on such system configurations are very different worlds. And as much as a "corrector" may be a temptation because it looks good on paper, it often gets removed from the system. An example of this or me was the Rives PARC.

Rather than trying to tweak the circuit to accommodate a pairing of balance and single-ended devices, my advice is to use products of the same topology.

The advice to hunt down another D115 or D250 is good. Perhaps you might even find the rare and coveted M100s, a mono block version similar to the D115. The SP-10 and these amps are absolutely outstanding products. Don't piss away their musical magic through other attempts at "correction".
Eldartford,

To be fair to Jafox, I don't think he was dissing the quality of the devices (including the one I suggested) being recommended for use between the pre and power amps when he used the term "junk". Rather, it seems to me that he was advocating the "simplest signal path" philosophy shared by many hobbyists on this site. Whether you agree or disagree with that position, I'd cut him some slack as I think he meant no disrespect.

Marty