What makes a good piece of audio gear ?


Is is the design ? If so how many possible designs are there for say an amp ?
Is it the materials used ?
What else am i missing ?
Are new designs even possible anymore ?
Will the future bring better gear ?
Something that is eye catching / Fancy looking will make one envision how nice the sound must be . Obviously that is not the case ,but it brings the mind there .
Let's take asthetics out . Envision all gear used the same exact box to house the gear . Only the sound would make are decisions on what to buy . Do you think the most expensive ones show through ?
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Rleff:
"Rok2id what do you mean by saying " high quality components is not"

I was speaking as to what to look for in a piece of high end gear, once you get past the spec sheet The build quality will be rather obvious and a person can make an informed decision as to it's value. HIGH QUALITY PARTS USED, has become a buzz word to justify obscene pricing. And it is very hard to verify what that means, and even harder to assign or determine their value as pertains to the listening experience. I would just ask: who is making all these LOW QUALITY parts, and who do they sell them to?
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With regards to the original post, new designs in amps are quite possible. Examples: Atma-Sphere (first fully balanced zero feedback OTLs), Berning (first zero hysteresis air-core transformer coupled amplifier, can be single-ended or fully balanced), class D, Nelson Pass 'first watt' amps (zero feedback class A with single gain stage)... I can go on if you like.

The same is true of preamps: Messenger (single ended direct-coupled output) Atma-Sphere (the first fully differential preamp, also all-tube with direct-coupled outputs), buffered passive systems.. again I can go on about this.

I can tell you that cost is by no means the last word. For example our preamps employ a simple circuit that has a direct-coupled output; the result is a lot cheaper than the competition that operates at the same level. OTOH if you have a well-done Dynaco PAS-3 mod, it can kill a lot of preamps costing a lot lot more! In high end audio a lot rests on the design itself, and in that on the intention of the designer (and how competent they are). This *does* mean that price may not amount to anything!

Component quality makes a difference too, as well as more arcane things like how well the circuits are grounded, quality regulation, layout, ability to survive rough shipping (that latter being quite important; I know of one popular preamp that is held together by hot-melt glue, if dropped it goes from 'sounding great' to 'fire hazard').

Intention can be huge. It makes a big difference if the designer is an audiophile (it also makes a difference if he went to school...).

Bottom line is there are many variables, cost is not the object, there are new designs that can make a difference, and you have to listen because everyone says they have the best, and that can't possibly be true- there can be only one.

Have fun :)
A great meal requires a talented chef, whose talent is defined by a discerning palate. Same thing holds for audio gear. Ultimately, a designer has to know what music sounds like.
any good places to learn how amps and preamps work . I would like to learn
what all the wires and parts do to change the sound.I am off work for a few
months and would like to get some understanding . These questions came
forefront after purchasing a Dodd audio preamp . Many reviews saying you
would have to spend 10k to better the sound . I guess one way the price is low is
because he is a one man operation with i assume no overhead . does not
advertise but his equipment is in magazines when they show audio show rooms
.ect...