Gents, can we please go back to the thread? I thought the logic "if you can not measure it, you can not hear it", especially in cabling, does not merit to be the sole one and should not. Simply because our hearing is more complex than the best instruments can capture and, often forgotten in heated discussions, that hearing is subjective.
My journey in this bottomless pit (sic) in cabling started as non believer (approaching from my left brain as IEEE engineer, WRONG!) so some of the non believers have my sympathy (to a certain point). I fully second the dogma: try it yourself.
Whilst I agree more active contributors on this particular thread would make it more plausible than the usual suspects (and maybe they would less use this forum as a chat message platform, you guys can simply pm each other, no?), the credibility of some posters like Norm (TBG) should not be treated with disdain. I have read Norm's reviews for many years and have talked to him occasionally. If you did the same, you will find that Norm is a very knowledgeable audiophile that really helps people to find their audio nirvana. He seems indeed very excited about HFC.
If HFC products were much cheaper - and I believe there will be cheaper versions/alternatives in the future - then those sneaky remarks about paying less than retail would not exist.
Please put your ego and jealousy a bit aside...thank you!