Beating the RVG Horse


I wanted to throw yet another question out there related to the Rudy Van Gelder re-masters.

If you read any of the previous threads on this topic you might recall that I'm not a huge fan of the sound quality, generally finding the recordings to sound thin and tinny.

Ordinarily I try to stay away from the tone controls on my pre-amp, or as Rotel calls it “tone contouring” (I guess it’s sort of an internal EQ with four pre-set levels plus neutral). I try to stick with the sound as originally recorded on the grounds of trying to get a sound as true to originally played as possible. I do confess that this position is born out of some sort of ‘don’t mess with mother nature’ philosophy rather than any consideration to whether or not it sounds any better. Neurotic or not, I generally equate these things to touching up the Mona Lisa because you don’t like the color of the dress.

On the other hand, I have recently started playing around with the tone control on my pre-amp and found that –particularly with some of these thin RVG recordings, they do help to fill out the sound, even if it is by artificially boosting the bass.

Anyone have any thoughts on this kind of fiddling?
grimace
Good analysis, knownothing, and I'd say your handle is a misnomer for sure.

I wonder if RVG simply does not deserve to be canonized as he has been. He engineered recordings of a lot of truly great music made during an extraordinary period of time, but does that make him a great engineer? The remasters call this into some question.
It amazes me that 60 minutes hasn't done a segment on Rudy,I've been waiting for years for it.
Thanks. I guess I am trying to say that Rudy had a great ear once, and perhaps his approach to digital re-masters is not as successful as his original approach was with vinyl. There may be a lot of other factors or actors at work here since there is more to analog and digital production than just the original engineering. Perhaps, (Theory four?) Rudy and/or Blue Note used some kind of filtering process that cleaned up garbage on old tapes and resulted in trading off some of the original recordings roundness for clarity and reduced noise, figuring people who like digital will not tolerate background noise in their listening experience? For whatever reason, I agree with others in that I find the re-mastered RVG CDs to be universally clear but very "bright" compared with other works.

Interestingly I also find the CD re-release of Miles Davis' "Sketches of Spain" and "Miles Smiles" to be similarly bright when compared with my CD copy of "Kind of Blue", which is just outstanding and beats many modern recordings in many ways (except for the background hiss). Was this the case with the original analog versions of these Columbia recordings as well, or did the sound get changed in the transfer to digital media?