A Very Narrow Listening Room


Greetings all,

First time caller.

I'm about to start a new listening room project. I'm a lucky boy! But, the room I have to work with will be 11 by 21 by 10 ft., which is not so lucky. Even I know that will present some challanges. I'm open to suggestions on room treatments, placement of speakers, types of speakers / electronics combinations...anything. I do plan on listening "nearfield", hoping that will help. I'm not new to the hobby but I AM new to this type of room.

Are there ideas out there (short of not doing it at all)?
My feeling is any dedicated listening room is better than none at all.

David
vinylmatters
Now for something really different.....

Try moving your speakers closer (yes closer!) to the side walls BUT toe them in so that the axis of the speaker crosses well in front of you. Several thing will occur:
1) You may not find a meaningful change in the bass frequencies assuming you have them well out from the back wall;
2) You will eliminate much of the 1st reflections from the adjacent side wall and can easily tame the residual with minimal treatment;
3) You will change the 1st reflections from the ceiling to some degree, but more importantly you will alter the effect of the 2d reflection (and subsequent reflections) substantially, which can be a good thing;
4)you get to move your listening position further back from the speakers - its possible, depending on your room, to get an 8' speaker spread which should allow a listening position 8 to 9 ft back; and
5)You will get a pretty good stereo image for others when you have guests who will be sitting to your side; and
6) You may get a better, more solid center image.

Just something to think about, it's worked for me on many occasions.

BTW, plotting with the Cardas system is just a good starting point, it ain't the end all, Actually, I did use the Cara program on the Rives site and it pegged my speaker location perfectly, but missed the listening position by a foot. Try it - it even lets you select from different speakers.
Well, there you go. I'm liking that idea. In your opinion, would something like the VR4-jr's work with that arrangement? And I'm headed to the Rives site today. Thanks for your time and tip.
2.5 ft. from the side walls and 4.25 from the back (approx.)
The Cardas golden ratio usually works (when it does) in "normal" rooms (i.e. ones whose dimensions happen to follow the 1:1,618:2,618 sequence).

Your room is narrow, so I suggested you go for sqr of the above. This idea was suggested by C. Hansen at Audio Aysum.
By the Cardas method, the spkrs would probably be too close to one another.
Got it.

The toe-in method sounded great with the Totems in my old room. I believe I can make this puppy work. Thanks!
I have a 10x14 room with a vaulted ceiling that is 8 feet on one side and 11 feet on the other for my second system and have it set up like Newbee suggested. This is a terrific sounding room with a broad sweet spot. I use Triad System 3 speakers in this system which are 2 way stand mounts. These speakers are designed to be listened to with the grilles on and are cut out around the drivers which offers a more directional sound output. I would not recommend a speaker with a broad dispersion pattern. I also have room tunes panels in the corners behind the speakers with the reflective side out. The seating position leaves approximately 40 inches from the sofa to the wall behind. I would guess the speakers are about 2 feet out from the front wall at the farthest edge and toed in to cross in front of listening seat. Give something like this a try.