A Very Narrow Listening Room


Greetings all,

First time caller.

I'm about to start a new listening room project. I'm a lucky boy! But, the room I have to work with will be 11 by 21 by 10 ft., which is not so lucky. Even I know that will present some challanges. I'm open to suggestions on room treatments, placement of speakers, types of speakers / electronics combinations...anything. I do plan on listening "nearfield", hoping that will help. I'm not new to the hobby but I AM new to this type of room.

Are there ideas out there (short of not doing it at all)?
My feeling is any dedicated listening room is better than none at all.

David
vinylmatters
2.5 ft. from the side walls and 4.25 from the back (approx.)
The Cardas golden ratio usually works (when it does) in "normal" rooms (i.e. ones whose dimensions happen to follow the 1:1,618:2,618 sequence).

Your room is narrow, so I suggested you go for sqr of the above. This idea was suggested by C. Hansen at Audio Aysum.
By the Cardas method, the spkrs would probably be too close to one another.
Got it.

The toe-in method sounded great with the Totems in my old room. I believe I can make this puppy work. Thanks!
I have a 10x14 room with a vaulted ceiling that is 8 feet on one side and 11 feet on the other for my second system and have it set up like Newbee suggested. This is a terrific sounding room with a broad sweet spot. I use Triad System 3 speakers in this system which are 2 way stand mounts. These speakers are designed to be listened to with the grilles on and are cut out around the drivers which offers a more directional sound output. I would not recommend a speaker with a broad dispersion pattern. I also have room tunes panels in the corners behind the speakers with the reflective side out. The seating position leaves approximately 40 inches from the sofa to the wall behind. I would guess the speakers are about 2 feet out from the front wall at the farthest edge and toed in to cross in front of listening seat. Give something like this a try.
I'll be looking into the Triads, Rhljazz. Thanks.

It makes sense to shy away from speakers with a wide pattern.

My listening position will be more like 6 to 8 feet from the back wall (the one behind the chair). How much, if any, adjustment will I have to make for realistic bass?
Vinylmatters,

It will help a lot if you get a Radio Shack Sound Level meter and a test disc with 1/3d octave pink noise tones up to at least 200hz (Stereophile test disc's with pink noise work fine). That way you can measure everything, speaker and chair location. FWIW, I have found, everything else being equal, that when my listening position has been about the same distance from the back wall as my speakers are from the front wall (+/- 6 to 8 inches) I get the flattest bass response, somewhat like set out in the Cardas system of 3rds.

Regarding the 4Jr's, I've never heard them, but the speakers I've used have had wide dispersion tweeters (Seas and Dynaudio) and configured as I suggested they were not a problem. I could easily imagine that they would if they were pointed straight ahead or listened to on axis. I assume there is much more involved that just the dispersion pattern of the speakers.

FWIW, if you are going to be listening in the near field, I would strongly suggest that you do not get speakers (or any other components) which have any kind of a reputation for being 'bright' by any name. At most you'd probably want neutal speakers which would allow you to find the tone you want thru the selection of components and assessories.