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When rap came out 30 years ago I thought it was just a fad
Extramusical associations have nothing whatsoever to do with intrinsic musical value. Musical value is not tied to historical or cultural value--they are separate things.   And people who don't know real rap history don't necessarily hate it just ... 
Do you have a secret "guilty pleasure" recording?
bdp24, I saw them three times--best version was the BBs in white suits with a half-dozen sidemen in black.  Strawberry Alarm Clock and Buffalo Springfield opened the show.  It was real good.I followed them through "Holland" and some of the early 7... 
When rap came out 30 years ago I thought it was just a fad
You may be on to something, nonoise.  I watched the last 20-25 minutes of a Kendrick Lamar ACL concert last night on tv.  He seemed talented and earnest and he had a combo of apparently talented musicians behind him.  I say "apparently" because th... 
When rap came out 30 years ago I thought it was just a fad
This was set off  (by spacing) as one thought:There's very real cultural/racial bias in this thread. 1. Rap is not music.2. Creators of rap are somehow not as good as regular humans (whatever that means).What else could you have meant?  If the A-g... 
Do you have a secret "guilty pleasure" recording?
Man, there's a lot of my favorite tracks or albums listed--I had no idea I should be red-faced for listening to them! Who knew?I consider the early Beach Boys tracks a guilty pleasure because the lyrics--whether about surfing, cars, or young love-... 
Is this the new Erica Morini???
Just listened to the first movement from that link.  Boy, that is something special!I have video of her Bell Telephone hour appearance--I think she plays Bruch.  Very impressive. 
When rap came out 30 years ago I thought it was just a fad
rja, what you said was:There's very real cultural/racial bias in this thread. 1. Rap is not music.Are you not saying that I am culturally/racially biased for saying rap is not music?  If not, what are you saying?BTW, I said it was another form of ... 
Is this the new Erica Morini???
Great playing.  Isn't she four years older than Sarah Chang was when she made her debut with Bernstein/NY Phil?No one mentions Erica M. anymore, sadly--now it's all about Hilary Hahn. 
When rap came out 30 years ago I thought it was just a fad
rja, there is no cultural or racial bias that makes me think rap is not music.  Quit playing those cards.  Step up to the plate and show me where the music is in rap.  Quit making unfair, snap judgements and use your brain. 
I am sick of Adele
After listening to big chunks of three of her tunes I can say I find the voice to be good, but it and/or the material would have to be different ("better," IMO) to make me get out the credit card.  I'm a little surprised there's such a big stink a... 
If you won the power ball tomorrow night would you
zman, this one has officially hit 900 million--it's time to step up to the plate. 
If you won the power ball tomorrow night would you
+1 for Drs. w/o Borders--I think they are far and away one of the most worthy groups to give to.I'm sure I'd eventually get a different house and bigger better system (present one is way under 10k) but nothing too ostentatious. 
When rap came out 30 years ago I thought it was just a fad
onhwy61, give me five tracks that you think deserve to be mentioned in the same breath with "the Revolution will not be Televised" and I will listen to them and get back to you.  I will listen with good phones, undistracted and with big ears and a... 
Radiohead read on
You guys almost make me want to dig out my old DBX 119 expansion/compression unit and put it into the system (assuming it still works). 
When rap came out 30 years ago I thought it was just a fad
onhwy61, you asked if Imight not have the knowledge to understand how the musicians are using these elements? With all due respect, while you are engaging in a discourse you seem to have closed your mind on the subject.1) What knowledge do I ne...