I have three dedicated line, all are 10AWG wiring from same phase on 20amp breakers to AC outlets, never want any possibility of current limitations on any of the dedicated outlets. Power conditioner with any number of components connected on one circuit may draw much current. Amp/subs on their own dedicated circuit, no power conditioning, amps, subs on same circuit so no chance for ground loops. I've tried many power conditioners with any number of amps via lending library at Cablecompany, every one of them impacted transients to some degree, even with outlets dedicated for amps, while these may bypass some of the pathway of other outlets, they still pass through who knows what. Its my experience amps/subs like direct connection to breakers, I can just imagine 10AWG direct wired no power cords, fuse, IEC, AC outlets.
Are upgraded power cables for subwoofers worth it?
I recently have been filling in all of the holes in my secondary system. Recently picked up a shunyata power conditioner, upgraded speaker cables, and power cable for my amplifier.
My question is, is it worth running higher end audiophile power cables with subwoofers, considering distortion is not as apparent to the human ear in the sub bass range? I use a high end receiver for my DAC in this system with a normal power cable as well. Would I get better performance increase from upgrading sub cables or my DAC(receiver w pre outs) power cable?
Any specific suggestions for sub power cables, or DAC power cables that are inexpensive (sub 200 or even $100)
Thanks for your time!
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@billstevenson - my system is also transparent high quality so am considering REL. Thanks for the tip. |
@stereo5 - you had thousands of dollars worth of cabling and power conditioning "just laying around" haha - must be nice @docknow - interesting situation with the class D sub amps. I run a high end class D for my mains in my second setup with an XC power cord. Wonder if an NR would be more beneficial? I really am in love with those Cardas Parsec power cables for low priced power cabling for amps though. Seem to just punch way above their price point or just synergize extremely well with my system. Tried against a $2000 Nordost cable and I preferred it by a mile. My rhythmik subs have A/B amps so I probably will run XC with them or just some beefy amazon ones. Right now it's partially just a distance requirement that I've come to need new cables. The servo subs are working fantastically, although I've learned over the years that "better" can always be achieved if one is willing to pay the cost of entry and the time and effort to test various equipment in a similar price tier. @sns My studio setup is similar but I still saw a pretty massive improvement using a Shunyata Gemini-8 with a Theta C19 power cable. I know it seems like the book is closed for you on power conditioning, but if you have anyone near you that has Shunyata gear, may be worth a try again? I'm noticing the opposite - improved transients and it's not a preference thing. I'm an audio engineer and recording engineer so I live on my system and am well aware of how transients are incredibly important for realism on a system and can make or break a good mix when layered properly. Your setup from your breaker may be superior to mine though? Interesting how components can be world shatteringly amazing in one system and not work at all in another |
@jrareform Perhaps I wasn't clear in that I was only commenting on amps/subs on power conditioners. Vast majority of equipment in my system running through BPT 3.5 Signature with film cap and AC outlet modifications (Oyaide R1). In my demos of amps on PC's, the Audience Adept proved best, still negatively impacted transients. |
@sns Thanks for clarifying your setup. Since you have dedicated lines for 10AWG wiring, including lines dedicated to subs, I can see why a 10awg PC could help you obviate any possible current limitation, especially if the PC's that came with your sub came with were restricting their current requirements. (When I talked with REL, they explained that their PC's were sufficient for their subs.) But I have to admit, your description helps me, as I've wired a new room with those kinds of outlets (and a dedicated breaker box), but I have not moved in there yet. When I do, I will reconsider my conclusions about PC's and subs. In my current room, with a 20 amp circuit, no dedicated outlets, and wall wire that is 12AWG, I could not hear a difference with PC's, BUT that's likely because my setup, unlike yours, prevents me from hearing the benefits that you can hear. My claims about not hearing a difference were probably falsely attributed to the PC. I suppose others reading this advice might take away the reasonable conclusion that if they have a setup like mine, they may also not be able to hear a difference from a PC (due not to the PC but to the wider system). My guess is that most people will have 12ga with a 20a circuit. So, for most, a 10ga cord probably won't matter unless they have a high-power sub and an 18ga cord. But if they have a setup like yours, the PC might matter. I appreciate this exchange. I'm learning from it. Advice is always relative to someone's setup, and you've made me understand the difference between your (amazing) setup and my ordinary one. |
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